turnin' two Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Yes. And he had a teammate say he was using, plus his former GM say something about suspecting him. Ah, I see. And THAT teammate none the less. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Vaughn is not an outfielder and probably lacks the range and reach needed at first base, so he is mainly a one tool player. If Andrew continues mashing the ball he has a high ceiling, even if limited to DHing. More HR's would elevate his value even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 15 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Yes. And he had a teammate say he was using, plus his former GM say something about suspecting him. Which teammate? He was listed in Canseco’s second book where he named people based on hearsay to cash in more on his first book but I didn’t recall a teammate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 2:09 PM, Quin said: I mean, Leury is a huge success story no matter how frustrating he can be at times. Very late to the party here, but this is painful to wholeheartedly agree with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, JoeC said: Very late to the party here, but this is painful to wholeheartedly agree with. I know we got rid of the Leury banner but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 21 hours ago, Quin said: I would like to see Vaughn harness this power, so therefore I need Menechino to leave: It's a real shame he doesn't see any 68 mph hangin curveballs in the big leagues. Those go far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It's a real shame he doesn't see any 68 mph hangin curveballs in the big leagues. Those go far. orly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It's a real shame he doesn't see any 68 mph hangin curveballs in the big leagues. Those go far. Maybe one day Jarred Kelenic will start seeing them and start looking like a major league hitter. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) I’m going to wait to see a new coaching staff until I worry about the lack of extra base hits. It’s an epidemic across the entire team, I’m willing to go out on a limb and say there may be a common denominator causing it. I don’t think Vaughn will ever be a consistent 30+ hr guy, but 20-25 with a lot of doubles with an average/obp around .300/.350 is in his future I think. Edited August 5, 2022 by TheFutureIsNear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I think Vaughn definitely needs to work on a new approach to better produce power as a 1b/DH. Hard to look at this: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/statcast?type=batter&year=2022&position=3&team=&min=q&sort=6&sortDir=desc This launch angle works for abreu because he barrels a lot, vaughn hasn't hit that as much. But he still hits the ball hard a lot. The cohort he's in with launch angle...i'd rather see him operate more like alonso/olson than what the others are doing aside from vlad (hits the ball way harder, way more raw power) and abreu (prodigious, can do whatever he wants) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 It's hard to say what his offensive ceiling might be. I think he has plenty of power, and he's shown that he has that power. But, like the rest of the team right now, he's hitting ground balls. The hitting philosophy is so bad with this team that he and others are being robbed of their potential. He's young, so hopefully the Sox go in a different direction at hitting coach and he can turn it around. Under the right hitting coach, and manager for that matter, he could be 25+ HR guy, I think. He needs consistent playing time, and he needs better coaching. Maybe he sacrifices some of his average if he taps into the power. Maybe not. Regardless, I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't have enough power based on his performance this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I feel bad for Vaughn because he should be playing 1st. His agent must be pissed, think about all that missed WAR. Vaughn is going to lose a ton of money in arbitration because Hahn has no fucking clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 3 hours ago, bmags said: This launch angle works for abreu because he barrels a lot, vaughn hasn't hit that as much. But he still hits the ball hard a lot. The cohort he's in with launch angle...i'd rather see him operate more like alonso/olson than what the others are doing aside from vlad (hits the ball way harder, way more raw power) and abreu (prodigious, can do whatever he wants) Menechino doesn't believe in launch angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 12:37 AM, caulfield12 said: Paul Goldschmidt Agreed on this comparison. I think he should be allowed to play more 1B and not RF. His defense will improve a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Whatever his offensive potential is will continue to be capped while he’s playing out of position with no steady rhythm. I really hope they don’t trade him, but if they resign Abreu I feel like they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) "Heck of a job, Brownie." Edited August 5, 2022 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I’ve said this before, he’s the next Paul Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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