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reiks12 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 “I showed him how he hit in 2019 and I told him, ‘You need to start being that guy every day,'” Menechino said. Great advice Frank 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, reiks12 said: “I showed him how he hit in 2019 and I told him, ‘You need to start being that guy every day,'” Menechino said. Great advice Frank He's the man with the plan. No wonder the offense is unstoppable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Some interesting Moncada statistics (keep in mind this might be because his legs are hurt, as ptatc says below): - GB% at 48.6%, 5% increase from last year - LD% down 12% from last year, at a paltry 15% -MED% (% of balls as hit with medium speed) highest of career at 67% -HARD% lowest at 22% (Menechino mantra: Don't do too much) - O-Contact% (percentage of balls hit outside the zone) has gone up considerably from 2019, 11%! - Z-Contact% (percentage of balls hit inside the zone) has gone down considerably from 2019, 7%! Yet when you look at his 2019, his Swing% in both outside and inside are similar to this year. Is he sacrificing his power just to make contact? Menechino mantra again? EV in 2019: 93.1 EV in 2022: 87.6 Clearly he is swinging less hard to make contact. Moncada has been mentally broken from the coaching he has been getting. This is the EXACT same pattern we see with other hitters on the White Sox. Robert's trending in the same direction. Edited June 28, 2022 by reiks12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Maybe we should bring Palka back. "You see Mr Palka, just hit home runs like you did that one season." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, reiks12 said: Some interesting Moncada statistics: - GB% at 48.6%, 5% increase from last year - LD% down 12% from last year, at a paltry 15% -MED% (% of balls as hit with medium speed) highest of career at 67% -HARD% lowest at 22% (Menechino mantra: Don't do too much) - O-Contact% (percentage of balls hit outside the zone) has gone up considerably from 2019, 11%! - Z-Contact% (percentage of balls hit inside the zone) has gone down considerably from 2019, 7%! Yet when you look at his 2019, his Swing% in both outside and inside are similar to this year. Is he sacrificing his power just to make contact? Menechino mantra again? EV in 2019: 93.1 EV in 2022: 87.6 Clearly he is swinging less hard to make contact. Moncada has been mentally broken from the coaching he has been getting. This is the EXACT same pattern we see with other hitters on the White Sox. Robert's trending in the same direction. Is it trying to swing less hard or have the leg injuries decreased his power? Tough to generate power without leg strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, reiks12 said: Some interesting Moncada statistics: - GB% at 48.6%, 5% increase from last year - LD% down 12% from last year, at a paltry 15% -MED% (% of balls as hit with medium speed) highest of career at 67% -HARD% lowest at 22% (Menechino mantra: Don't do too much) - O-Contact% (percentage of balls hit outside the zone) has gone up considerably from 2019, 11%! - Z-Contact% (percentage of balls hit inside the zone) has gone down considerably from 2019, 7%! Yet when you look at his 2019, his Swing% in both outside and inside are similar to this year. Is he sacrificing his power just to make contact? Menechino mantra again? EV in 2019: 93.1 EV in 2022: 87.6 Clearly he is swinging less hard to make contact. Moncada has been mentally broken from the coaching he has been getting. This is the EXACT same pattern we see with other hitters on the White Sox. Robert's trending in the same direction. Do the White Sox employ any baseball people that can note the things you just did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, South Side Fireworks Man said: Do the White Sox employ any baseball people that can note the things you just did? The White Sox do have an analytics coordinator. Shelley Duncan, who also likely got the job more because his dad was TLR's pitching coach Dave Duncan than because of anything else on his resume. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-nerdy-conversation-with-white-sox-analytics-coordinator-shelly-duncan/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, ptatc said: Is it trying to swing less hard or have the leg injuries decreased his power? Tough to generate power without leg strength. Then he needed to be IL'ed a long long time ago instead of pushing it further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: The White Sox do have an analytics coordinator. Shelley Duncan, who also likely got the job more because his dad was TLR's pitching coach Dave Duncan than because of anything else on his resume. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-nerdy-conversation-with-white-sox-analytics-coordinator-shelly-duncan/ This organization. Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I like the fact that Duncan had 0 experience in analytics or math and is head of the department. I do commend him for taking it seriously however 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, reiks12 said: Then he needed to be IL'ed a long long time ago instead of pushing it further Possible, but who would have been a better replacement? Everyone want Burger gone due to defense. Is there a better option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, ptatc said: Possible, but who would have been a better replacement? Everyone want Burger gone due to defense. Is there a better option? If you are having to play your guys hurt because theres 0 farm depth then part of the blame should be on Hahn, his FO, and the people they employ as scouts and coaches in the minors. Although Burger has been bad on defense I don't think the majority of people want him gone. I dont. Without his offense this team is in laughable territory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 As someone mentioned our DH's are not hitterish enough to justify DH status. Jake just does not have the body to be an agile 3B and now the concrete glove. Gavin does not look that comfortable moving in RF. Maybe these guys grew up playing soccer?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, ptatc said: Possible, but who would have been a better replacement? Everyone want Burger gone due to defense. Is there a better option? There WAS Mendick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, reiks12 said: “I showed him how he hit in 2019 and I told him, ‘You need to start being that guy every day,'” Menechino said. Great advice Frank That's why they pay Frank the big bucks for those amazing hitting tips. Oh btw, Frank, you weren't the hitting coach in 2019 when he actually could hit. Oh that's right, you took over in 2020 when he went downhill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijames1957 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 “I showed him how he hit in 2019 and I told him, ‘You need to start being that guy every day,'” Menechino said. If this quote is real he needs to be fired for saying that alone. This whole organization is a clown show. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, brijames1957 said: “I showed him how he hit in 2019 and I told him, ‘You need to start being that guy every day,'” Menechino said. If this quote is real he needs to be fired for saying that alone. This whole organization is a clown show. Apparently Menechino bases his coaching philosophy on the "come on bud, just throw strikes!" coaching you hear in Little League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggliopipe Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 hours ago, ptatc said: Is it trying to swing less hard or have the leg injuries decreased his power? Tough to generate power without leg strength. Is it possible there was still residual pain when swinging too hard from his oblique injury? IIRC those injuries, or at least discomfort from them, tend to linger especially given lots of a swing's torque is generated from the oblique. I certainly hope that's a cause of the reduced EV and that he's had ample time to recover by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Apparently Menechino bases his coaching philosophy on the "come on bud, just throw strikes!" coaching you hear in Little League. I read it more as "do what the other guy told you to do before I started coaching you." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Stupid question but do white Sox outfielders use the positioning cards the angels carry and use all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Stupid question but do white Sox outfielders use the positioning cards the angels carry and use all the time? Pretty sure I've seen them with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Wow, imagine if Menechino had been able to work with Beckham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 I don't know if it's a fluke or not, but Yoan had more on his swing than he had in a while. Hopefully that 10 days off fixed whatever was wrong with him, because we could use last nights version of Moncada if we have a chance of turning things around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I don't know if it's a fluke or not, but Yoan had more on his swing than he had in a while. Hopefully that 10 days off fixed whatever was wrong with him, because we could use last nights version of Moncada if we have a chance of turning things around. Let's not be too hasty. Only one of his hits last night was hit hard. The single was a bloop hit off the end of the bat. He also struck out twice. He had a good night but so did Seby, Leury and just about the rest of the Sox lineup that combined for 17 hits. It would be great if Yoan can get back to what he was supposed to be but don't get too excited just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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