Jack Parkman Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/team/front-office They don't have anyone listed for pro scouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Everyone is available for the right price. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: So we're basically punting on next season? Hahn can competently fill three gaping rotation holes? Lambert & Martin? Sounds like where the Cubs are this season in their teardown. The Twins trading away Cruz and Berrios at the deadline last year is a huge part of the reason why they're going to win the division this season. I never said anything about punting next season, but I think trading Lynn or Hendriks for prospect capital (particularly for a starter that's in the majors or AAA) would make a lot of sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 I know the value has probably dropped, but I could probably get at least $20 for Tony's HoF plaque, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Probably shouldn't sell, because there is slim chance that Hahn will get Hostetler to dispatch his scouts to adequately evaluate the minor league systems of teams that would be interested in Sox players. He'd be trading off of prospect ranking lists. Hire Phil Rogers and Bruce Levine. Would actually be better off just hiring everyone at FG or Baseball America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: The Twins trading away Cruz and Berrios at the deadline last year is a huge part of the reason why they're going to win the division this season. I never said anything about punting next season, but I think trading Lynn or Hendriks for prospect capital (particularly for a starter that's in the majors or AAA) would make a lot of sense. I would only trust that if you flipped front offices with CLE, TB, MIL, HOU, LAD, ATL, SFG or MIN. Letting Hahn do it again is insane. Edited July 9, 2022 by caulfield12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, caulfield12 said: I would only trust that if you flipped front offices with CLE, TB, MIL, HOU, LAD, ATL, SFC or MIN. Letting Hahn do it again is insane. So is the idea of leaving the roster as is and not making any trades. Hahn isn't going anywhere so putting putting transactions on hold until there's a new owner isn't realistic at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Anderson, Moncada, and Eloy for starters 1 hour ago, Heads22 said: So who do you sell? Anderson, Moncada, and Eloy for starters... And anyone else that can bring back real talent in return. But I'd hate to see this current GM and Scouting staff being the ones doing it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 https://www.justbaseball.com/mlb/steve-cohens-all-in-approach-is-about-more-than-just-2022/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Hahn better not be allowed to touch any sort of sale and or retooling / rebuild. He is terrible at his job. The entire FO can follow him to go infest other teams front offices around the league. Start with getting rid of that idiot. But until that happens, this team better remain intact. Get rid of him now and bring in someone to figure this out before the trade deadline. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I kinda want Hahn fired before selling anyone This is fine. Fire whoever. But firing Rick Hahn doesn't fix anything. So you let Jeremy Haber take over? Kenny is still there so it doesn't matter. Kenny has tentacles everywhere. Darryl Boston on the coaching staff, his dipshit son is 2nd in command of the minor leagues and they rehired Steverson to do some scouting. This entire organization needs an enema. Without the full house cleaning, it doesn't matter. And that's just not happening. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 We gotta stop these threads. It isn't happening. I just don't see many scenarios where Rick Hahn is selling off major pieces at the deadline. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: So is the idea of leaving the roster as is and not making any trades. Hahn isn't going anywhere so putting putting transactions on hold until there's a new owner isn't realistic at all. Why does Hahn deserve a lifetime employment contract? JR will suddenly reverse course to blame TLR instead? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: This is fine. Fire whoever. But firing Rick Hahn doesn't fix anything. So you let Jeremy Haber take over? Kenny is still there so it doesn't matter. Kenny has tentacles everywhere. Darryl Boston on the coaching staff, his dipshit son is 2nd in command of the minor leagues and they rehired Steverson to do some scouting. This entire organization needs an enema. Without the full house cleaning, it doesn't matter. And that's just not happening. I don't disagree. Absent JR selling/croaking, the best we can ask for is new eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, caulfield12 said: Why does Hahn deserve a lifetime employment contract? JR will suddenly reverse course to blame TLR instead? When did I ever say that he did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Tony said: We gotta stop these threads. It isn't happening. I just don't see many scenarios where Rick Hahn is selling off major pieces at the deadline. Also don't disagree. If anything, they'll buy in hopes of sparking the team. The best we can hope for is that they stand pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: This is fine. Fire whoever. But firing Rick Hahn doesn't fix anything. So you let Jeremy Haber take over? Kenny is still there so it doesn't matter. Kenny has tentacles everywhere. Darryl Boston on the coaching staff, his dipshit son is 2nd in command of the minor leagues and they rehired Steverson to do some scouting. This entire organization needs an enema. Without the full house cleaning, it doesn't matter. And that's just not happening. "It" is the key word here. "It" is everything. None of what we are watching matters, because with this current structure in place, they aren't achieving anything that is going to get us excited as fans. This is who they are. Aside from falling ass backwards in 2005, they've proven time and time again that they are light years behind the elite teams in MLB. Year after year, season after season.....the joke is on us for still hanging around. We're the assholes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This is fine. Fire whoever. But firing Rick Hahn doesn't fix anything. So you let Jeremy Haber take over? Kenny is still there so it doesn't matter. Kenny has tentacles everywhere. Darryl Boston on the coaching staff, his dipshit son is 2nd in command of the minor leagues and they rehired Steverson to do some scouting. This entire organization needs an enema. Without the full house cleaning, it doesn't matter. And that's just not happening. https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-spt-daryl-boston-white-sox-20180504-story.html Boston's brother, not son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Said this in the last thread. The guys who you should be moving are: Gravemann, Cueto, Lopez. Possibly moving: McGuire (happy to listen to offers but white sox could have use for him too) Abreu: up to him if he wants to be moving. He would have suitors and return something of value. Most of the other guys are either: Guys who you expect to have their value grow because they're young, guys whose value is depressed because of bad years or injury, and guys who are plain worthless. None of them likely to bring enough of a return to justify moving them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Balta1701 said: Said this in the last thread. The guys who you should be moving are: Gravemann, Cueto, Lopez. Possibly moving: McGuire (happy to listen to offers but white sox could have use for him too) Abreu: up to him if he wants to be moving. He would have suitors and return something of value. Most of the other guys are either: Guys who you expect to have their value grow because they're young, guys whose value is depressed because of bad years or injury, and guys who are plain worthless. None of them likely to bring enough of a return to justify moving them. Might as well trade Hendriks and Graveman, see if Lopez can close in the second half...not just September. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tony said: We gotta stop these threads. It isn't happening. I just don't see many scenarios where Rick Hahn is selling off major pieces at the deadline. I can see them selling a few pieces in order to reduce payroll. Jerry doesn't want to pay big time bucks for a losing team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, caulfield12 said: Might as well trade Hendriks and Graveman, see if Lopez can close in the second half...not just September. No one is paying Hendriks's value, not with his screwy contract structure that makes him way more expensive to any team in the tax, and a forearm injury. Graveman however is far more affordable and has not been recently injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Said this in the last thread. The guys who you should be moving are: Gravemann, Cueto, Lopez. Possibly moving: McGuire (happy to listen to offers but white sox could have use for him too) Abreu: up to him if he wants to be moving. He would have suitors and return something of value. Most of the other guys are either: Guys who you expect to have their value grow because they're young, guys whose value is depressed because of bad years or injury, and guys who are plain worthless. None of them likely to bring enough of a return to justify moving them. I wonder what an extension with Lopez would look like. He didn't sign for much with Washington, arbitration won't pay him a ton because he isn't getting wins or saves, but I think he's already better than all of the expensive relievers aside from Hendriks. It'd take a lot for me to deal him, and I'm not sure what the trade market for him would look like considering the track record of him being good is quite limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Balta1701 said: No one is paying Hendriks's value, not with his screwy contract structure that makes him way more expensive to any team in the tax, and a forearm injury. Graveman however is far more affordable and has not been recently injured. I definitely think a big market team like the Mets or Dodgers would take Hendriks assuming the medicals check out. He'll be the best reliever on the market by a mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: I wonder what an extension with Lopez would look like. He didn't sign for much with Washington, arbitration won't pay him a ton because he isn't getting wins or saves, but I think he's already better than all of the expensive relievers aside from Hendriks. It'd take a lot for me to deal him, and I'm not sure what the trade market for him would look like considering the track record of him being good is quite limited. If Lopez continues being a quality reliever, we 100% know what the contract looks like for him - 2 to 3 years at $20 to $30 million total. We keep signing relievers for that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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