Buehrle>Wood Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 40 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who? Moncada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Water is wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Moncada. The Cubans on the team are clearly a clique right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Morgues have livelier celebrations. Hell, calling 2022 Corpseball is an insult to Jerry Manuel It's a lot easier to get along when you're winning. It could be that this team has had issues in the clubhouse for a while now and that all the losing this year is finally airing some of the dirty laundry that's been masked by the team winning the previous 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Hopefully this is Rick Hahn and/or Kenny Williams trying to get Tony to leave or Jerry to let them fire him. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 La Russa and Abreu gone after 2022. Trade Giolito, Anderson, and Moncada. Build a new team with a new coaching staff in 2023. Stop putting up with shit!!! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Not that this is telling us anything we didn't already know, but there is really nothing left TLR does well if he can't hold a clubhouse together Things I expected TLR to be good at when he was hired: 1. Has playoff experience 2. Knows how to manage a clubhouse Things TLR is actually good at: 1. 2. 3. Edited July 11, 2022 by chw42 4 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I don’t agree with any of this stuff. Stuff like this gets posted from time to time and had no sources to back up the claims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Hopefully this is Rick Hahn and/or Kenny Williams trying to get Tony to leave or Jerry to let them fire him. The org (JR) throwing his players under the bus as cover for not firing his bestie, since he can’t admit that bringing him back was a massive fuck up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, elrockinMT said: I don’t agree with any of this stuff. Stuff like this gets posted from time to time and had no sources to back up the claims 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Bob never puts out Sox related info/dirt w/o it the org wanting it out there. 6 minutes ago, chw42 said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, elrockinMT said: I don’t agree with any of this stuff. Stuff like this gets posted from time to time and had no sources to back up the claims What are you seeing in the clubhouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, Tnetennba said: Bob never puts out Sox related info/dirt w/o it the org wanting it out there. The question is it coming Jerry or KW? I feel like Hahn uses Passan or someone else for his leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey21 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 57 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: It's the same core of players they had in 2019-20 and there weren't clubhouse issues then. What's changed (rhetorical quesiton)? Expectations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: The question is it coming Jerry or KW? I feel like Hahn uses Passan or someone else for his leaks. 2022 White Sox: Civil War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its all Robert Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Seems like a motivation strategy by the FO. Leak some Damaging info (whether real or not) about the to team to their favorite journalist. Players on the team take offense to their dirty laundry being publicized. Maybe this brings them closer and motivates them to play better. Maybe this generates a “Us against them” mentality. Maybe I need a tinfoil hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, chw42 said: Don't forget Bob was the one who got the TLR info 1st. SOMEONE is slipping him info from the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 There was a level of joy and togetherness surrounding this team in 2019 + 2020 which made them so fun to watch. That's been gone the last 2 seasons. I think the confidence they played with, the change the game attitude etc is something that should have made this group of players special and it's pretty much gone now. Maybe that's all projecting because I don't like TLR, but just putting aside the tactical stuff which we all know he's terrible at, what he's (seemingly) done to hurt the clubhouse culture has made this team so much less fun to watch on a daily basis. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: The question is it coming Jerry or KW? I feel like Hahn uses Passan or someone else for his leaks. Me personally I think it’s JR blaming the players in defense of TLR. I don’t think KW or RH would bite the hand that feeds them unless they had one foot out the door. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Me personally I think it’s JR blaming the players in defense of TLR. I don’t think KW or RH would bite the hand that feeds them unless they had one foot out the door. Can’t argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I maintain my conspiracy theory we see some action over the All Star break, but Tony getting fired seems like an unattainable dream. That being said, this tweet creates the smallest amount of hope for me that Tony may not be bulletproof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, chw42 said: Things I expected TLR to be good at when he was hired: 1. Has playoff experience 2. Knows how to manage a clubhouse Things TLR is actually good at: 1. Playing Leury Legend everyday 2. Leaving starters in too long 3. Lineup Variety Fixed 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Me personally I think it’s JR blaming the players in defense of TLR. I don’t think KW or RH would bite the hand that feeds them unless they had one foot out the door. I think you're right. It seems obvious just from connecting a few dots Jerry is a source for Bob, right? But it's remarkable to me that he wouldn't see leaking the clubhouse is in a bad spot as a direct indictment of his handpicked manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, chw42 said: 2022 White Sox: Civil War Leury is obviously Iron Man in this one, but who is the Captain America leading the resistance against Tony? My sleeper guess is definitely Big Energy. I could see Legend and him clashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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