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Nightengale: Sox have clubhouse issues


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Remember when Eaton was traded and a board insider alluded to it being part of a locker room reset then the Sox resigned Eaton because they believed the locker room needed more fire, and then they dfa’d him a few months into the season because he actually does suck and also can’t hit.

Also remember when the managers kids were openly airing out locker room gossip and the Sox just let it ride for months/years until the manager basically quit.

So weird we are having locker room issues again. 

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41 minutes ago, Jerksticks said:

Can you explain this clique to me?  It’s not obvious to me but I don’t really watch the games much. 

Who are the three most underperforming players based on expectations entering the season?

Which players seems to consistently be going through the motions or demonstrating a fundamental lack of awareness both on offense and defense?

You could answer TA or Leury...but there are plausible explanations for them, as well as for Pollock.

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39 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Nightengale was also the one clueless enough to say that DUI wasn’t a real crime for someone as important as LaRussa with no concept of how that would come across.

They specifically wrote that this is a “lack of player leadership”. Could they be out of touch enough to believe that this would come across as “it’s all the players’ fault” and not “hey what the hell are the coaches doing”? If this was leaked to Nightengale, I can’t see it coming from anyone other than JR or LaRussa himself.

Typically, the managers and coaches stay out if the clubhouse and let the players run it. So they probably assume people will just agree with it.

The only new players really are Pollock and Harrison.  So either they are the cause or the clubhouse wasn't as good as reported in years past. Or that's what they want people to believe anyway.

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15 minutes ago, fathom said:

Since we’re throwing out guesses for fun, I’m going with issues caused by the player who seems distracted far too often on the field and has teammates that didn’t seem overly excited he made the ASG.

That might be more of a jealousy issue...like the YouTube series, the way he's seemingly leading his personal life, etc.

Remember all the whispers about Madrigal and how he didn't fit in and rubbed many the wrong way?

So it's definitely not an overtly Christian-oriented clubhouse like the Royals have had during the Dayton Moore Era.

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2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Typically, the managers and coaches stay out if the clubhouse and let the players run it. So they probably assume people will just agree with it.

The only new players really are Pollock and Harrison.  So either they are the cause or the clubhouse wasn't as good as reported in years past. Or that's what they want people to believe anyway.

I've never heard anything negative about either of those 2 in terms of their clubhouse character. Pollock was well liked in LA. 

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1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

That might be more of a jealousy issue...like the YouTube series, the way he's seemingly leading his personal life, etc.

Moncada getting jealous of TA? There are plenty of women out there for the both of them it would seem 

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13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Who are the three most underperforming players based on expectations entering the season?

Which players seems to consistently be going through the motions or demonstrating a fundamental lack of awareness both on offense and defense?

You could answer TA or Leury...but there are plausible explanations for them, as well as for Pollock.

TA is definitely not one of the most underperforming players. 

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4 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I've never heard anything negative about either of those 2 in terms of their clubhouse character. Pollock was well liked in LA. 

Me neither so what is the cause?

TLR would seem the most likely cause hence the article to blame player leadership.

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5 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Typically, the managers and coaches stay out if the clubhouse and let the players run it. So they probably assume people will just agree with it.

The only new players really are Pollock and Harrison.  So either they are the cause or the clubhouse wasn't as good as reported in years past. Or that's what they want people to believe anyway.

Harrison is one of the few players who really seems to care about winning.

Maybe they're saying his actions and play don't match.

 

Pollock has never seemed to be a good fit.  At best his body language this year has mostly been indifferent.

And who does Pollock usually hang out with in the dugout? Vaughn? Sheets?

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2 minutes ago, wegner said:

Are you hinting that it's La Pantera??

Damn, that's probably the easiest casting job ever. 

Who should play Black Panther? Oh IDK, maybe the guy whose nickname has Panther in it? 

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Just now, Buehrle>Wood said:

TA is definitely not one of the most underperforming players. 

The last 2-3 weeks.

At the beginning of the year it was his focus defensively.

Recently, hitting in general...but specifically with RISP.

That said Anderson with his lack of walks and huge power numbers is a max 850-875 ops touching 900 type of player. 

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Just now, JoshPR said:

I'm surprised Keuchel didn't have anything to say... You know he moved his mouth a lot...

We need an Arizona reporter to ask Keuchel what he thinks of the White Sox clubhouse turmoil. I'm sure if you ask, he will definitely say something incriminating. That guy will ramble on to reporters forever. 

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4 minutes ago, chw42 said:

We need an Arizona reporter to ask Keuchel what he thinks of the White Sox clubhouse turmoil. I'm sure if you ask, he will definitely say something incriminating. That guy will ramble on to reporters forever. 

Heck, at his point, he probably would talk in unfiltered fashion for at least thirty minutes to a volunteer SoxTalk or The Daily Northwestern reporter.

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