2023 MLB Draft thread

[dasox24]

As a Tennessee fan, no one was more disappointed with Dollander's year than me.  His command wasn't as sharp this past year, nor was his slider, but his stuff was still pretty great.  He often would run into problems in the 1st inning and then would typically settle down, which made it more frustrating because once he settled in, he'd start dealing.  With that said, I'm all in on Dollander if he falls to 15.  If we can get the 2022 version, we're getting a Top 3 pick.

[Harold's Leg Lift]

Pitchers going backwards in their draft year is a huge red flag.  This guy is just way too big a risk in a year with so many bats.  Hopefully someone else makes this mistake.  

[bmags]

hmm I think the tallest cumulative first three rounds the white sox could feasibly get would be

1 - Bryce Eldridge (6'7)

2 - Alonzo Tredwell (6'8)

3 - George Wolkow (6'7)

This would add I believe like 138" to the org.

 

[bmags]

Flipside, best short draft (first 3 rounds)

1 - Tommy Troy (5'11) SS

2 - Adrian Santana (5'11") SS

3 - Luke Shliger (5'9) C

tough for the short kings but I kinda like both drafts not sure if teams have drafted strictly on height yet but I may have something here.

[Quin]

24 minutes ago, bmags said:

hmm I think the tallest cumulative first three rounds the white sox could feasibly get would be

1 - Bryce Eldridge (6'7)

2 - Alonzo Tredwell (6'8)

3 - George Wolkow (6'7)

This would add I believe like 138" to the org.

 

 

20 minutes ago, bmags said:

Flipside, best short draft (first 3 rounds)

1 - Tommy Troy (5'11) SS

2 - Adrian Santana (5'11") SS

3 - Luke Shliger (5'9) C

tough for the short kings but I kinda like both drafts not sure if teams have drafted strictly on height yet but I may have something here.

This is the draft analysis I need.

Do we go the Schultz or Camilletti route?

[Autumn Dreamin]

5 minutes ago, Quin said:

 

This is the draft analysis I need.

Do we go the Schultz or Camilletti route?

Don't be silly. Chappy is clearly the benchmark for short kings in the org.

[Quin]

11 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Don't be silly. Chappy is clearly the benchmark for short kings in the org.

Right but this is strictly for drafting purposes.

[bmags]

oh god that should read 238" not 138" oh no

[Harold's Leg Lift]

5 round Illinois draft:

1. Dillon Head OF Homewood Flossmoor HS

2. Parker Detmers RHP Glenwood Chatham HS

3. Dominic Voegele RHP Columbia HS

4.  Paul Bonzagni RHP SIU

5. Charlie Szykowny 3B UIC (Money saver)

[peanut33tillman]

Don’t know how to paste it in here but Future Stars Series Joe Doyle just released mock a bit ago and has Sox taking Morales. Talks about possible small underslot like Davis as Sox seem to love Wolters as James has said on here. 

[bmags]

I would like to see detmers but I’d also feel bad entering him into this org

[PolishPrince34]

https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2023/7/7/2023-mlb-draft-mock-4
 

Noble Meyer for the Sox. Don’t see that at all. Sox are big on the spin on his pitches and that’s one of his concerns is sometimes his fastball is hittable. 

[Harold's Leg Lift]

I don't think Meyer is in the mix but if they're gonna take a pitcher I'd like him way more than Dollander or Waldrep.  Pairing him with Schultz would be fun. 

[DirtySox]

Meyer/Schultz would be a very fun pitching combo.

[Boopa1219]

 

[Harold's Leg Lift]

Scout the player. Don't scout the stats.

[ChiSoxFanMike]

3 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Scout the player. Don't scout the stats.

What brilliant insight this is.

[Leonard Washington]

I like Chase Davis as an underslot pick. But at the end of the day video only tells you so much. 
if you aren’t talking to the kids and getting a feel for them. Seeing them an entire 9 innings. How they interact with teammates. Behave in the dugout, etc. who knows. 
 

hostetler or whatever his name is sucks balls. I’ll never forget Madrigal saying he was surprised the Sox took him bc he “never talked to them.” I don’t know how that’s possible, but that’s what he said. This dummy is currently running our pro scouting department, I believe. 

[Springfield Soxfan]

On 7/7/2023 at 11:36 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said:

5 round Illinois draft:

1. Dillon Head OF Homewood Flossmoor HS

2. Parker Detmers RHP Glenwood Chatham HS

3. Dominic Voegele RHP Columbia HS

4.  Paul Bonzagni RHP SIU

5. Charlie Szykowny 3B UIC (Money saver)

Detmers only a junior.  

[Springfield Soxfan]

On 7/7/2023 at 9:34 PM, bmags said:

hmm I think the tallest cumulative first three rounds the white sox could feasibly get would be

1 - Bryce Eldridge (6'7)

2 - Alonzo Tredwell (6'8)

3 - George Wolkow (6'7)

This would add I believe like 138" to the org.

 

My apologies.  Detmers reclassified.  

[Polar Bear]

On 7/7/2023 at 3:34 PM, bmags said:

- George Wolkow (6'7)

Not sure what the conversation is about bc I didn't read but saw Wolkow mentioned.  He he is going to be a steal whenever he is drafted (would love for it to be the Sox).  ???

[DirtySox]

Happy draft day folks.

Pipeline's final mock. Some new names of interest mentioned here.

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15. White Sox
Callis: Jacob Gonzalez, SS, Mississippi (No. 18)
Gonzalez performed for three years in the SEC and needs a home somewhere in the first round, and my guess is here. The White Sox could use a pitcher and are the high-water mark for Floyd, who struck out a record-tying 17 in the College World Series finals. They also could be the ceiling for a group of position players that includes Davis, Miami third baseman Yohandy Morales and high school shortstop Walker Martin.

Mayo: Yohandy Morales, 3B, Miami (No. 20)
Morales had a huge year in Miami and his name has been all over the back half of the first round. In this last go-round, he’s getting the nod over Troy, Bradfield, Davis or Schanuel. A prep bat like Miller could still be in the mix.

 

Edited July 9, 2023 by DirtySox

[DirtySox]

Ty Floyd and Walker Martin scouting reports:

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44. Ty Floyd
RHP

Ht: 6'2" | Wt: 194 | B-T: R-R

Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 21.9
BA Grade: 50/High
Tools: Fastball: 65. Slider: 45. Curveball: 45. Changeup: 50. Control: 50.

Floyd ranked as the No. 282 prospect in the 2022 class as a draft-eligible sophomore, but went unselected and returned to a loaded LSU team for his third collegiate season. A 6-foot-2, 200-pound righthander, Floyd has a quick arm, with an athletic and loose delivery and three-quarter slot. After pitching in the bullpen as a freshman, Floyd started half the time in 2022 and then transitioned to a full-time starter role in 2023, where he posted a 4.35 ERA over 91 innings, with a 31% strikeout rate and 9.6% walk rate. He entered legendary LSU status after he struck out 17 batters in eight innings against Florida in the College World Series finals. Floyd developed a reputation as a one-pitch arm thanks to the 81% usage rate of his fastball in 2022. He went to the pitch often for good reason. It averaged 94-95 mph this spring and touched 98, with excellent riding life and 19 inches of induced vertical break that generates tons of whiffs at the top of the zone. He did dial that usage rate down to just 70% in 2023 thanks to improved breaking stuff. Floyd throws a low-80s slider and an upper-70s curveball, and while they are both still fringy at times, he’s improved them enough to at least glimpse a potential average breaking ball in the future. Floyd also throws a low-80s changeup that’s mostly a change-of-pace look against lefties, but did generate a 44% whiff rate this spring.

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24. Walker Martin
SS

Ht: 6'2" | Wt: 188 | B-T: L-R

Commit/Drafted: Arkansas
Age At Draft: 19.4
BA Grade: 55/Extreme
Tools: Hit: 55. Power: 50. Run: 55. Field: 50. Arm: 50.

Martin is one of the top prospects in the Four Corners region of the country, and in the 2022 summer showcase circuit he wowed scouts with a sweet, lefthanded swing. Martin has a lean and projectable, 6-foot-2, 185-pound frame and impressive feel for the barrel with line drive power in batting practice and some pull-side game power as well. He has sound hitting mechanics with quick bat speed through the zone and does an excellent job staying balanced in his lower half, with a steady, quiet head throughout his swing. Scouts raved about his hitting potential, and while he’s mostly a line drive, gap-to-gap hitter now it would be unsurprising to see him get to average power in the future. Martin’s 20 home runs this spring with Eaton High were tops in the country and he also hit .636. Martin has turned in above-average and plus run times in workout settings, and he’s also a terrific athlete with one of the best Loden scores in the prep class. A shortstop now, Martin will need to improve his hands and actions to stick at the position, but he could grow into the power that would allow him to profile nicely at third if he’s forced to move. The one glaring knock on Martin’s profile is his age. He’s one of the older high school players in the class and turned 19 in February. There hasn’t been a high school position player from Colorado drafted among the top three rounds this century, but Martin is in position to do just that. He’s committed to Arkansas.

 

Edited July 9, 2023 by DirtySox

[DirtySox]

I feel like we haven't heard much with the White Sox and Arjun Nimmala. @Harold's Leg LiftDo you know if the Sox have any interest?

[bmags]

10 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I feel like we haven't heard much with the White Sox and Arjun Nimmala. @Harold's Leg LiftDo you know if the Sox have any interest?

Seriously it’s a bummer. Consider their rumors around power and college bats I don’t get it.