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59 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

KW will definitely be allowed the dignity of walking out on his own terms at the conclusion of this year, at least from all indications. 

If Kenny Williams had any dignity, he would back up his comments that there is accountability in the Sox front office. He told reporters a few months ago, "Accountability is not a problem around here."

If that's the case why is Rick Hahn still the GM?

The fact is, Kenny probably can't fire Hahn because the POS owner won't allow it. If that is the case, then so be it and it sucks. However I don't appreciate KW tooting his ego and bravado claiming there is all this accountability in the Sox organization. The fact is, the Sox FO has the least amount of accountability in probably all 30 ML teams.


 

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 The Oakland A's field a AAA team (0.3 net fWAR through yesterday) and won their 7th straight win tonight, all against winning teams.

The drew over 27,000 on the day Nevada sleeze-ball politicians handed out $380M plus to a billionaire. The Sox outdrew this number three times this season.

In a decade of Hahn, the Sox have two seven game win streaks, none beyond.

Fire Rick Hahn.

Seven Plus Win Streaks in the Rick Hahn Era:

  • 2023: None (5 Longest)
  • 2022: None (6 Longest)
  • 2021: None (6 Longest)
  • 2020: One Seven Game Streak (August 16-22)
  • 2019: None (5 Longest)
  • 2018: None (4 Longest)
  • 2017: None (6 Longest)
  • 2016: None (6 Longest)
  • 2015: One Seven Game Streak (July 23-29)
  • 2014: None (4 Longest)
  • 2013: None (6 Longest)
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10 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said:

That’s unbelievable the A’s got 27k at a game. No way I’d buy a ticket if I were an A’s fan right now

It was a planned boycott. They’ll be back to nothing next game. 

Royals are now worse than the A’s. Quatraro and Grifol are probably bad at this. 

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23 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said:

That’s unbelievable the A’s got 27k at a game. No way I’d buy a ticket if I were an A’s fan right now

Yeah, this was a specifically planned "f*** you for blaming fan turnout" game. They also changed "sell the team" so loudly the Rays pitcher couldn't hear his pitchcom.

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Kenny please retire. Promote Rick. Hire someone from outside the organization. 

It's the White Sox Way™

Start selling this season. Look for a 2028 playoff appearance. Sorry JR but you may never see another post season win. 

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With Fegan gone, down to Scott Merkin for Sox Tweets. Everyone who loves to jump on Sox players without knowing their full health status (Tim, Yoan, Yasmani, Luis), we can add Liam to the mix of gross misconduct when it comes to White Sox management of injuries the past three seasons.

 

So basically Liam was injured before he even started his truncated post Cancer Recovery rehab, the Sox did nothing, either told him to pitch through his barking arm, or Liam said nothing and pitched injured until he couldn't make a fist or hold a baseball which happened last Friday.

Sox could clearly see his velocity was down this entire time. Rushed rehab, no MRI examinations until yesterday. Boyer and Hahn rushed Liam back for a few weeks of PR fluff pieces and pawning a few tickets.

Fire Rick Hahn and Brooks Boyer,

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10 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

With Fegan gone, down to Scott Merkin for Sox Tweets. Everyone who loves to jump on Sox players without knowing their full health status (Tim, Yoan, Yasmani, Luis), we can add Liam to the mix of gross misconduct when it comes to White Sox management of injuries the past three seasons.

 

So basically Liam was injured before he even started his truncated post Cancer Recovery rehab, the Sox did nothing, either told him to pitch through his barking arm, or Liam said nothing and pitched injured until he couldn't make a fist or hold a baseball which happened last Friday.

Sox could clearly see his velocity was down this entire time. Rushed rehab, no MRI examinations until yesterday. Boyer and Hahn rushed Liam back for a few weeks of PR fluff pieces and pawning a few tickets.

Fire Rick Hahn and Brooks Boyer,

Ultimately, the White Sox are better off financially pocketing insurance payments for Hendriks rather than him on the active roster for a dead team walking.   Unfortunately, nobody has a recording of someone in the front office actually uttering words to that effect.

And coming up next, MLB announcements about how more accountants/bean counters per organization will be embraced, while NASA rocket scientists and theoretical physicists will be pushed out.

 

One thing's for certain, the Hendriks Comeback Story took a lot of the attention away from that 10 game losing streak and 14-29 mark or whatever the low point was this season...for a week or two, there was even talk of getting back into the AL Central Division race and scoreboard watching and being just 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 games back or whatever.

Right now, the Sox are staring 6 1/2 game back and climbing towards 9-10 again.

Then ALL the talk will shift towards which players are left standing on the roster after July 31st.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Ultimately, the White Sox are better off financially pocketing insurance payments for Hendriks rather than him on the active roster for a dead team walking.   Unfortunately, nobody has a recording of someone in the front office actually uttering words to that effect.

Do you have any evidence the team has insurance, or was even able to get insurance, on Liam Hendriks? He's had the UCL issue for a long time, so this injury is not covered.

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16 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Do you have any evidence the team has insurance, or was even able to get insurance, on Liam Hendriks? He's had the UCL issue for a long time, so this injury is not covered.

We never have access to this information as fans, unless the team specifically wants fans to know about it, like with the David Wells situation in 2001 where the team was getting somewhere between 60-75% on the dollar back.

Lloyd's of London was one of the major insurers back then for athletes...not sure how that's evolved since back at that time, with the abundance of $150-350 million-ish contracts.

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15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

We never have access to this information as fans, unless the team specifically wants fans to know about it, like with the David Wells situation in 2001 where the team was getting somewhere between 60-75% on the dollar back.

Lloyd's of London was one of the major insurers back then for athletes...not sure how that's evolved since back at that time, with the abundance of $150-350 million-ish contracts.

Nobody was covering his already inured UCL, so all future time off is not insurable.

Perhaps the several cancer weeks were insured, if they were than it was even more stupid to rush him back, not check his MRI with the low velocity rushed rehab.

And for that, Hahn's fired.

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1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Nobody was covering his already inured UCL, so all future time off is not insurable.

Perhaps the several cancer weeks were insured, if they were than it was even more stupid to rush him back, not check his MRI with the low velocity rushed rehab.

And for that, Hahn's fired.

EVERY single White Sox fans watching his AAA outings and White Sox outings could tell he wasn't right.

Someone had to have overruled all those standing in Liam's way from returning on an expedited timetable.

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5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

EVERY single White Sox fans watching his AAA outings and White Sox outings could tell he wasn't right.

Someone had to have overruled all those standing in Liam's way from returning on an expedited timetable.

Jerry, Kenny and or Hahn are the lone three who have any decision making ability in this organization before or after Tony La Russa.

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The White Sox have a 2.5% of making the playoffs per Baseball Prospectus, in the middle of Rick Hahn’s self-proclaimed multi-championship window.

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/standings/

If their 76 win projection comes to fruition, Rick Hahn will have completed his 11th season with a single 82+ win ball club.

Fire Rick Hahn.

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If you exclude the 10-game losing streak, the Sox are 111-111 since the beginning of the 2022 season. Perhaps .500 is okay as far as JR is concerned. But we fans can't really expect any kind of real contention. Action needs to be taken but it won't. And I don't even know if firing Hahn would do any real good.

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15 minutes ago, shago said:

Rick needs to be walked naked through the streets of Chicago with someone ringing the 'shame' bell behind him ? 

As a person who has been demanding Hahn be tarred and feathered and paraded through the south suburbs since 2016, I am rather content to see others coming into agreement with this.

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