FloydBannister1983 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: One is not like the other ? It’s really hard to see that actually in writing. This stupid idiot, who is in so far over his head he can touch the bottom of the ocean, has the third flipping longest tenure in all of baseball. You could not make this up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: One is not like the other ? Rick Hahn, The Most Painful Whammy Ever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Mfer needs to be fired into the sun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Accountability may be a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Accountability may be a problem. “Accountability around here is not a problem.”- Kenny Williams 4/25/23 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Top Ten White Sox Position Players 2013-2023 (fWAR) 27.4 Jose Abreu 18.5 Tim Anderson 14.3 Adam Eaton 13.9 Yoan Moncada 10.7 Luis Robert Junior 6.2 Alexei Ramirez 5.7 Avisail Garcia 5.5 Eloy Jimenez 5.4 Tyler Flowers 5.2 Adam Engel Top Ten White Sox Pitchers 2013-2023 (fWAR) 20.7 Chris Sale 19.5 Carlos Quintana 14.8 Lucas Giolito 11.9 Carlos Rodon 11.4 Dylan Cease 7.7 Reynaldo Lopez 6.6 Lance Lynn 4.4 Aaron Bummer 4.2 Liam Hendriks 4.1 Miguel Gonzalez 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 Rick Hahn literally hired this dude to be his manager in a must win season: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 No way Rick survives this season. He makes Dave Stewart look like John Schuerholz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Rick Hahn literally hired this dude to be his manager in a must win season: Too amped up and hyper/energetic but not focused on studying the game and opposing pitchers? Or a reference to the Sammy Sosa clubhouse incident with the Cubs where they destroyed his boom box with bsts after he left the team? Guess his behavior is rubbing others the wrong way when he's putting up such poor numbers...? Not like his Sox contract made him set for life...maybe some jealousy from other players who had to work harder/longer to get to the big leagues? Edited July 23, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 No way they can name Getz now after Trifold with the taint of the Royals... Better not try to claim it's about Michigan Tough or one crap like that from the winter weather and Chris' time playing or the Wolverines. Surely advisable moving on from Hahn Getz and Beckham altogether and starting some new traditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: No way Rick survives this season. He makes Dave Stewart look like John Schuerholz. The only reason I think he might is that any sane owner would have punted him into the sun by now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 This team might have even been worse if AJ Pollock and his 50 something wRC didn’t hand them a gift last winter. Fire this clown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Just now, Dick Allen said: This team might have even been worse if AJ Pollock and his 50 something wRC didn’t hand them a gift last winter. Fire this clown. Sox would have been better if Pollock stayed one more year. The Sox would have avoided five years of Benintendi. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Sox would have been better if Pollock stayed one more year. The Sox would have avoided five years of Benintendi. Benintendi has turned out to be one of the best signings by Hahn. He's a good ballplayer. I'm glad he's on the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Hahn has to know someone right? Like one of Jerry’s friend’s sons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 This team will not change until the entire regime is gone. Hahn, Kenny, Getz...and most important of all, the head of the beast, Jerry. Until then, nothing will change and we'll see this happen year after year after year. Such a sad state of affairs. Go Bears? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: The only reason I think he might is that any sane owner would have punted him into the sun by now While anything is possible with Reinsdorf, for the first time in years I feel like there may be hope for change. Back in 2016 when we were so-called “mired in mediocrity”, we finished with a 78-84 (.481) record and a -29 run differential. We were basically the 19th best team behind the 16th largest payroll. This season ultimately led to the rebuild, which is something no one felt Jerry would ever agree to. Now, as of today, we are sitting on a 41-59 (.410) record and a -75 run differential. We are effectively the 26th/25th best team in baseball behind the 12th largest payroll in baseball. And while 12th may not seem that big, our $185M payroll is only $17M from the 8th largest (in 2016 we were $45M from the 8th largest). Point is Jerry is spending a ton of money and is getting garbage results. Not only that, but it’s having an impact on attendance (worse when almost all teams are up YoY) and ultimately his bottom line. If the mediocre season that was 2016 was able to lead to structural change, then I’d have to imagine the most disastrous season during Jerry’s tenure will lead to something even more drastic. The one thing we know Jerry cares about is never being in the red and Rick has almost single-handily delivered that this year. We are also seeing fan engagement at an all-time low, which poses a threat to future season attendance and TV ratings. Jerry may be super loyal, but sticking with Hahn is literally punting money and we saw there was finally a breaking point with the Bulls when a subpar product threatened Jerry’s golden goose. I just don’t see any way Jerry can ignore all the facts at this point and retain Rick Hahn as GM. Change has to be coming. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: While anything is possible with Reinsdorf, for the first time in years I feel like there may be hope for change. Back in 2016 when we were so-called “mired in mediocrity”, we finished with a 78-84 (.481) record and a -29 run differential. We were basically the 19th best team behind the 16th largest payroll. This season ultimately led to the rebuild, which is something no one felt Jerry would ever agree to. Now, as of today, we are sitting on a 41-59 (.410) record and a -75 run differential. We are effectively the 26th/25th best team in baseball behind the 12th largest payroll in baseball. And while 12th may not seem that big, our $185M payroll is only $17M from the 8th largest (in 2016 we were $45M from the 8th largest). Point is Jerry is spending a ton of money and is getting garbage results. Not only that, but it’s having an impact on attendance (worse when almost all teams are up YoY) and ultimately his bottom line. If the mediocre season that was 2016 was able to lead to structural change, then I’d have to imagine the most disastrous season during Jerry’s tenure will lead to something even more drastic. The one thing we know Jerry cares about is never being in the red and Rick has almost single-handily delivered that this year. We are also seeing fan engagement at an all-time low, which poses a threat to future season attendance and TV ratings. Jerry may be super loyal, but sticking with Hahn is literally punting money and we saw there was finally a breaking point with the Bulls when a subpar product threatened Jerry’s golden goose. I just don’t see any way Jerry can ignore all the facts at this point and retain Rick Hahn as GM. Change has to be coming. While all of this is logical and true, JR is also about to allow him to make changes to this organization related to the future, both immediate and years down the line. Within this week he is gonna make these changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Jay Cuda is a Sox Killer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: While all of this is logical and true, JR is also about to allow him to make changes to this organization related to the future, both immediate and years down the line. Within this week he is gonna make these changes. Checkmate…I have no rebuttal to this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Sox would have been better if Pollock stayed one more year. The Sox would have avoided five years of Benintendi. Beni is actually playing fairly well right now and I suspect once you get a full year or so past his injury, increased power will come, maybe even some 15 HR seasons to go along with high average and high OBP. I think that's pretty solid, certainly better ROI than most of our signings. Honestly, he is way far down on the list of things to complain about and the leadoff spot seems to be good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: While all of this is logical and true, JR is also about to allow him to make changes to this organization related to the future, both immediate and years down the line. Within this week he is gonna make these changes. It’s crazy. It’s the one thing that makes me think they may keep everyone around. The one saving grace is more ticket holders will bail if they do than ever before. The team has to know this. Edited July 23, 2023 by Dick Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Today Sunday 7/23/2023 is the one year anniversary of the "Fire Hahn" thread! And still going strong! ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 Ryan has been on fire as of late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It’s crazy. It’s the one thing that makes me think they may keep everyone around. The one saving grace is more ticket holders will bail if they do than ever before. The team has to know this. On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at precisely 5:01pm, if Hahn and Reinsdorf insanely decide to make zero trades and keep the team intact, then that day will officially tell all Sox fans...they are fu*ked as fans with the #1 most dysfunctional loser team in baseball, that absolutely will never change....until Jerry dies and the team is sold! It will be official that Jerry has completely checked out mentally and doesn't give a sh*t anymore. It will be his final stamp of approval to let his genius GM Rick Hahn continue on his quest for the "parade!" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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