GreatScott82 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 hours ago, tray said: Hahn invited KW or JR to fire him and suggested he might resign. Hahn is a lame duck. The only reason he is still there is that JR needs some time to interview candidates for GM and KW's position as well. Also JR may want his son Michael and other family members and business partners to get involved in that firing/hiring process. Hahn over-promised/under-delivered in a very tough and competitive sports business environment. We all knew it was BS when he said it ...multiple championships? Never promise that which you cannot deliver. There is a thin line between confidence and over-confidence and that line is often coated with bravado and bullshit. I think it’s at the point now where we all need to finally see it to believe it. I think Hahn is going to have to pull a Robin Ventura and resign. It doesn’t matter how dysfunctional and horrible things get, Jerry never wants to let go of his buddies. Instead of answering questions about the toxic state of his team, he ignores media members and smokes a cigar with joy. The man just DGAF anymore. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 22 hours ago, Tony said: Heard on the radio yesterday by the end of the year, the Sox will have the 28th "best" record in baseball over the last decade, the Royals have a better record over the last 10 years than the Sox. Don't worry, if Rick ever decides that he's not the right guy for the job, he'll step aside. #accountability. Morning bump. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I agree with Great Scott. JR doesn't care anymore. If he is really "miserable" and wants the team to win, he would have taken some strong steps to turn the team around, and he would have done it years ago. If he wants to win, he should spend some money this offseason. If he doesn't, the Sox will just have another 90-loss season. So, I don't want to hear how much he wants to win. I don't believe it. Most fans don't believe it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Highland said: I agree with Great Scott. JR doesn't care anymore. If he is really "miserable" and wants the team to win, he would have taken some strong steps to turn the team around, and he would have done it years ago. If he wants to win, he should spend some money this offseason. If he doesn't, the Sox will just have another 90-loss season. So, I don't want to hear how much he wants to win. I don't believe it. Most fans don't believe it. He does want to win but as I've pointed out before he wants to win HIS WAY. Big difference and the results show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: More meaningless words just as an attempt to deflect. They’ve talked about it? Who cares? The talking has obviously been an absolute failure. It’s the change that is important. Anybody can talk about a change in culture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 This thread is such a cesspool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 9:21 AM, Chisoxfn said: It’s back to - a 10 year track record of stink. No one can justify anything other than a complete changing of the guard. Can't be soon enough! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, fathom said: This thread is such a cesspool JR and RH's delusional thinking is a cesspool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 On 8/4/2023 at 9:29 PM, Capn12 said: I saw this from Jay Cuda, and ....well....it really makes sense with the product we see on the field I'm not positive, but I think I read somewhere it's even worse when you compare the Sox to the Dodgers or Rays and some other teams besides the Cubs...for those FO baseball operations employees. Then again Jerry told us he knows best and he is so much smarter than all those other dumb owners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Have been listening to A.J.'s podcast the past few days. You can tell he's really shocked and pissed off at what is going on. Had both Rosenthal and Rogers on to talk about the situation and how it has turned to chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 This for keeping the team amply supplied with Trayce, Grandal, Elvis, Shaw, etc. so that the Pedro isn’t distracted with the burden of player development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, GreenSox said: This for keeping the team amply supplied with Trayce, Grandal, Elvis, Shaw, etc. so that the Pedro isn’t distracted with the burden of player development. I’m good with Trayce being here as a backup. Everyone else you mentioned can go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox72 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Who the F are the people on here defending the front office. I don’t get it. A HORRIBLE case of Stockholm syndrome? Trolling? Trying too hard to be positive? Planted members of the FO? It makes zero sense. There is nothing defendable or redeemable about this organization. And, somehow, someway, people are trying to defend this. Why?!? What the f*** is happening? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Does anyone else ever notice when the media brings up his job status, Rick always seems to mention his Executive of the Year award? Fire him today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 21 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: He does want to win but as I've pointed out before he wants to win HIS WAY. Big difference and the results show it. It's a strange way of wanting to win. You don't want to win that badly if you only want to prove a point and keep failing in the process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Sox72 said: Who the F are the people on here defending the front office. I don’t get it. A HORRIBLE case of Stockholm syndrome? Trolling? Trying too hard to be positive? Planted members of the FO? It makes zero sense. There is nothing defendable or redeemable about this organization. And, somehow, someway, people are trying to defend this. Why?!? What the f*** is happening? Where are you seeing people defend the FO? All I see is piling on the FO (rightfully so) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Snopek said: Where are you seeing people defend the FO? All I see is piling on the FO (rightfully so) Definitely not a lot but you will definitely see people defend the organization in threads here and there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I guess it's just hard to imagine the people that once thought Ricky Renteria was a problem after winning games, don't want to hold anyone accountable after losing games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Highland said: It's a strange way of wanting to win. You don't want to win that badly if you only want to prove a point and keep failing in the process. The arrogance and egotism in the front office doesn't allow them to admit failure so they continue to stay the course and fall flat on their faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Definitely not a lot but you will definitely see people defend the organization in threads here and there. I see it more as defending some *actions* as not being totally wrong. The FO hasn't been 100% wrong. But if you defend, for example, dumping Madrigal, then folks claim you're defending Hahn. I believe there is a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Wouldn’t today be a great day for the White Sox to announce Rick Hahn is no longer with the organization? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Wouldn’t today be a great day for the White Sox to announce Rick Hahn is no longer with the organization? A wouldn't tomorrow suck to learn the job will be done by a committee of Williams, LaRussa, and Hawk after consulting JR? It can get worse™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Wouldn’t today be a great day for the White Sox to announce Rick Hahn is no longer with the organization? It would truly be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, Texsox said: A wouldn't tomorrow suck to learn the job will be done by a committee of Williams, LaRussa, and Hawk after consulting JR? It can get worse™ While there’s always that possibility, the White Sox are currently irrelevant. So does it really matter fandom wise if they lose 95 games or 105? I guarantee the next GM of the White Sox will not be around as long as Hahn if he fails at the same clip. He’s made Bob Pulford look like he got a raw deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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