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On 8/19/2023 at 10:16 AM, Snopek said:

Last year was actually worse for me. Higher expectations going into that season. Plus they were “in it” for a lot of the season, but just refused to get out of their own damn way.

This season became a disaster so fast that there was basically no time to even give it a chance. 

Yes, it's interesting -- the seasons were really miserable in unique ways; I'm not sure which was worse. Last season was when I came to the realization that the rebuild was a failure and the core's talent wasn't inevitably going to shine through and save the team.  So in that sense it was worse than 2023 because the drop in expectations was more severe, but they did have a winning record much of the season and were worth following.  This season was uniquely embarrassing because the quality of play was so low and the team continued to outdo itself in humiliating and abusing its fans, (all while the hated Cubs ascended) but as you say, it was easier to just tune the team out because they were out of it so early.

You have to hand it to the White Sox -- their ability to harm their fans emotionally is almost artistic.  Where some masters work in oils, watercolors or clay the Sox work in failure.

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Trying to be optimistic while dealing in JR's reality. 

I'm wondering what Hahn has to do, or not do, to get fired. It seems like he's bulletproof.

If he truly has a lifetime appointment, at best he gets promoted after Kenny retires and his replacement gets lucky. 

Meanwhile, he did build a roster that was the favorite to crush the division just two years ago. He could do that again. 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Texsox said:

Trying to be optimistic while dealing in JR's reality. 

I'm wondering what Hahn has to do, or not do, to get fired. It seems like he's bulletproof.

If he truly has a lifetime appointment, at best he gets promoted after Kenny retires and his replacement gets lucky. 

Meanwhile, he did build a roster that was the favorite to crush the division just two years ago. He could do that again. 

 

 

 

Somehow this didn't age well, thankfully

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White Sox General Manager Records through August 21, 2023

Ties excluded

  1. .534 1,115 - 968 Charles Comiskey (1901 - 1914) (1906 World Series; 1901 A. L. Pennant)
  2. .487 2,285 - 2,408 Harry Grabiner (1915 - 1945) (1917 World Series; 1919 A. L. Pennant)
  3. .468 144 - 164 Leslie O'Connor (1946 - 1947)
  4. .496 610 - 620 Frank Lane (1948 - 1955)
  5. .556 257 - 205 Charles Comiskey II & John Rigney (1956 - 1958)
  6. .565 246 - 189 Hank Greenberg (1959 - August 25, 1961) (1959 A. L. Pennant)
  7. .511 749 - 717 Ed Short (August 26, 1961 - September 1, 1970)
  8. .504 173 - 170 Stu Holcomb (September 2, 1970 - 1972)
  9. .489 999-1,042 Roland Hemond (1973 - 1985)
  10. .418 23 - 32 Hawk Harrelson (April 7,1986 - June 9, 1986)
  11. .458 49 - 58 Tom Haller (June 10, 1986 - 1986)
  12. .481 311 - 335 Larry Himes (1987 - 1990)
  13. .527 817 - 734 Ron Schueler (1990 - 2000)
  14. .521 1,014 - 931 Kenny Williams (2001 - 2012) (2005 World Series)
  15. .456 749 - 893 Rick Hahn (2013 - August 21, 2023)
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2 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

White Sox General Manager Records through August 21, 2023

Ties excluded

  1. .534 1,115 - 968 Charles Comiskey (1901 - 1914) (1906 World Series; 1901 A. L. Pennant)
  2. .487 2,285 - 2,408 Harry Grabiner (1915 - 1945) (1917 World Series; 1919 A. L. Pennant)
  3. .468 144 - 164 Leslie O'Connor (1946 - 1947)
  4. .496 610 - 620 Frank Lane (1948 - 1955)
  5. .556 257 - 205 Charles Comiskey II & John Rigney (1956 - 1958)
  6. .565 246 - 189 Hank Greenberg (1959 - August 25, 1961)
  7. .511 749 - 717 Ed Short (August 26, 1961 - September 1, 1970)
  8. .504 173 - 170 Stu Holcomb (September 2, 1970 - 1972)
  9. .489 999-1,042 Roland Hemond (1973 - 1985)
  10. .418 23 - 32 Hawk Harrelson (April 7,1986 - June 9, 1986)
  11. .458 49 - 58 Tom Haller (June 10, 1986 - 1986)
  12. .481 311 - 335 Larry Himes (1987 - 1990)
  13. .527 817 - 734 Ron Schueler (1990 - 2000)
  14. .521 1,014 - 931 Kenny Williams (2001 - 2012)
  15. .456 749 - 893 Rick Hahn (2013 - August 21, 2023)

Wow. Worst GM in club history.

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