NCsoxfan Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 12:10 AM, Snopek said: I don’t disagree with the bolded but at the same time, what’s the point of having Cease pitch for what’s likely to be a very uncompetitive team next year? Expand It’s not binary. They could trade him this winter, they could trade him at next deadline. You can’t trade a pitcher with 2.5y of control (10-12war) and not get back a kings ransom. If a good enough deal wasn’t presented then Hahn did the right thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Deadline has passed. Can you fire Rick now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 12:28 AM, NCsoxfan said: It’s not binary. They could trade him this winter, they could trade him at next deadline. You can’t trade a pitcher with 2.5y of control (10-12war) and not get back a kings ransom. If a good enough deal wasn’t presented then Hahn did the right thing. Expand Sure, just feels like his trade value was at a peak at this deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Anyone else see this from earlier? Pretty odd wording. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 1:40 AM, Snopek said: Sure, just feels like his trade value was at a peak at this deadline. Expand Yeah I would’ve thought so too. Never know maybe a different team emerges in the off-season more willing to give up prospects or a player on the ML roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 1:54 AM, SoxFanForever said: Anyone else see this from earlier? Pretty odd wording. Expand Maybe he agreed to stay on until after the season ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 I love that the media is calling Rick out for his bullshit. What an arrogant piece of s%*# to think Sox fans would believe a word that comes out of his mouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 3:24 AM, Chicago White Sox said: I love that the media is calling Rick out for his bullshit. What an arrogant piece of s%*# to think Sox fans would believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Expand https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/8/1/23816609/mlb-trade-deadline-white-sox-news-gm-rick-hahn-spins-another-tale-about-a-lost-season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 2:51 AM, NCsoxfan said: Yeah I would’ve thought so too. Never know maybe a different team emerges in the off-season more willing to give up prospects or a player on the ML roster Expand Yeah and you have to hope there's no performance decline or injuries in the meantime. His value cant really get any higher, but it sure can get a lot lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 “Most of the fan interaction that I’ve had in recent months is fan question-and-answer sessions,” he said. “You can feel the frustration and you can feel the disappointment. They feel better for having been heard." - Rick Hahn You mean like at Sox Fest? ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Hahn is the worst GM in sports and has ruined White Sox baseball for many Sox fans. He needs to go find some dumb corporate job and run that organization into the ground instead of continuing to think he has any idea of how to construct a baseball team. He is a complete failure and just about any other company would have fired his ass into the sun years ago for such shitty performance. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Hahn always chooses his words so carefully. Could there be a glimmer of light? "What that looks like at the big league level in '24, let's get to the end of the season. ... You will hear, directly, what the plan is for the people in charge." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 1:51 PM, GreenSox said: Hahn always chooses his words so carefully. Could there be a glimmer of light? "What that looks like at the big league level in '24, let's get to the end of the season. ... You will hear, directly, what the plan is for the people in charge." Expand LOL no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 1:51 PM, GreenSox said: Hahn always chooses his words so carefully. Could there be a glimmer of light? "What that looks like at the big league level in '24, let's get to the end of the season. ... You will hear, directly, what the plan is for the people in charge." Expand Wouldn't he have said FROM the people in charge if he meant the front office? I kind of read that more like lets get to the end of the season and we will let you know the direction for the big league team. People in charge as coaching staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Can’t wait for KW as GM and Tony back as manager next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 3:38 PM, fathom said: Can’t wait for KW as GM and Tony back as manager next year Expand Ill believe it when I see it, KW has had a foot out the door for a while now I don't see how he goes back to being the GM. I haven't seen anything at all that indicated Rick Hahn has lost his job. And if Hahn has been internally fired but everyone, including Hahn, is pretending he is still GM until the season is over to save face or whatever it is they're doing then this organization is more pathetic than I could have ever imagined. I just don't understand at all how you could let a lame duck GM take lead on the future of your organization if you have already decided hes not the guy to lead the franchise. It makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 2:52 AM, NCsoxfan said: Maybe he agreed to stay on until after the season ends. Expand I kinda see that as throwing Jerry under the Bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 3:27 AM, Sarava said: Yeah and you have to hope there's no performance decline or injuries in the meantime. His value cant really get any higher, but it sure can get a lot lower. Expand Value doesn’t necessarily mean teams offering commensurate value in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 4:46 PM, NCsoxfan said: Value doesn’t necessarily mean teams offering commensurate value in a trade. Expand "Other teams are skeptical enough of Dylan Cease's long term value that they were unwilling to make fair offers now when his control was maximized" would be a worrying result in other ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 They’re really going to run it back next year, aren’t they? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 3:38 PM, fathom said: Can’t wait for KW as GM and Tony back as manager next year Expand The trade with Florida intrigues me in his regard. The trade deadline was simply saving salary for the remainder of the year. Why make a trade with the Marlins for the only player that was not a salary dump???? Kim Ng is replacing Kenny Williams also, the Marlins have no issue trading young pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 5:26 PM, fathom said: They’re really going to run it back next year, aren’t they? Expand They have done everything but come right out and say they are running it back next year. You know it, I know it, the media knows it and so does the front office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 5:26 PM, fathom said: They’re really going to run it back next year, aren’t they? Expand Stone isn't even trying any more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Steve, it's even harder to manage a Hahn roster against MLB teams. I really don't see Tony returning to the dugout especially to manage a 90 loss team. Pedro will be here for his contract, pay his dues, and be the Doug Collins of Chicago baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 9:14 PM, Texsox said: Steve, it's even harder to manage a Hahn roster against MLB teams. I really don't see Tony returning to the dugout especially to manage a 90 loss team. Pedro will be here for his contract, pay his dues, and be the Doug Collins of Chicago baseball. Expand Doug Collins actually won though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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