Fire Rick Hahn

[Bob Sacamano]

3 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

JR  has been a bad owner but he is not stupid. If this team continues to tank somebody has to be held accountable and that person is Hahn. It wouldn't surprise me if Hahn was gone by the All Star break.

Sounds like something we've been saying for over a year now.

[4uckOffCommieScum]

6 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

JR  has been a bad owner but he is not stupid. If this team continues to tank somebody has to be held accountable and that person is Hahn. It wouldn't surprise me if Hahn was gone by the All Star break.

He quite likely is at least in early stages of dementia at this point so intelligence may be irrelevant

[JoeC]

7 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

JR  has been a bad owner but he is not stupid. If this team continues to tank somebody has to be held accountable and that person is Hahn. It wouldn't surprise me if Hahn was gone by the All Star break.

He may not be stupid, but if he's so insulated that he's not getting the right information, he'll make stupid decisions.

[baseball_gal_aly]

 

[Flash Tizzle]

1 hour ago, WBWSF said:

JR  has been a bad owner but he is not stupid. If this team continues to tank somebody has to be held accountable and that person is Hahn. It wouldn't surprise me if Hahn was gone by the All Star break.

I definitely believe these last few weeks have accelerated Hahn’s fate. Mediocrity is job security with the White Sox; and he couldn’t even do that. You can definitely see the anger building amongst the fans. Even the national media is noticing this mess. 

If he fires Hahn midseason, there’s too little time to find the replacement and allow whomever time to rebuild. You don’t give that responsibility to an interim hire. They’ll have to devote several weeks to the sham search before hiring another lackey like Chris Getz. 

Which leads us to the realization that, regardless of the person in charge, a Reinsdorf hire will follow the bosses’ philosophies. Hahn will be fired upwards and the fans will pat themselves thinking  they’ve made some change. 

Honestly, there are no paths forward that look good for this team. Whatever good comes of Hahns firing and a potential rebuild of a rebuild will be pure luck. 

[Dick Allen]

The first sign that something really was off was the interview with Hawk. That guy used to think the Sox had a shot down 7 with 2 outs in the 9th. Even he has seen enough.

[Bob Sacamano]

3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

The first sign that something really was off was the interview with Hawk. That guy used to think the Sox had a shot down 7 with 2 outs in the 9th. Even he has seen enough.

What interview?

[Dick Allen]

2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

What interview?

It was that thing he did with AJP blasting Brooks Boyer saying jR needs to sell, and not optimistic about the Sox chances.

[A-Train to 35th]

2 hours ago, WBWSF said:

JR  has been a bad owner but he is not stupid. If this team continues to tank somebody has to be held accountable and that person is Hahn. It wouldn't surprise me if Hahn was gone by the All Star break.

I wouldn't count on it.  JR wouldn't/couldn't fire his loyal trusted Gar/Pax, so he had his son take control of the team so he would do it for him.  That's the only way Ken/Hah will be fired, they have jobs for life much like our first base coach.

Edited April 27, 2023 by A-Train to 35th
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[A-Train to 35th]

18 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

It was that thing he did with AJP blasting Brooks Boyer saying jR needs to sell, and not optimistic about the Sox chances.

Is this it, it's over 2 hours.

 

[South Side Hit Men]

12 minutes ago, A-Train to 35th said:

Is this it, it's over 2 hours.

 

Yes, I broke out the Hawk's Sox segments (see below), but the 1:05:50 mark is what you're looking for regarding Hawks comments on Brooks Boyer and also recommending Jerry sell because he is pushing 90, Hawk believes Jerry is not enjoying it anymore, and that the Sox had a bad season last year and will probably going to have another bad season this year. (Hawk knew this would be s%*#).

I recall others mentioning he was speaking out on Hahn's job in a different forum / interview. Hahn and Boyer need to go ASAP.

 

[joejoesox]

Something that I haven't heard anyone talk about re:Hahn

We need to start discussing how Hahn's inability to run this team has affected our odds at landing free agents. It's entirely plausible that players don't wanna play here, to the point that they're taking less money and going elsewhere. 

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

37 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

Something that I haven't heard anyone talk about re:Hahn

We need to start discussing how Hahn's inability to run this team has affected our odds at landing free agents. It's entirely plausible that players don't wanna play here, to the point that they're taking less money and going elsewhere. 

After some texting with a friend last night, was thinking over some legendary Hahn quotes I couldn't 100% remember exactly what he said - so I watched 4 or 5 pretty long Hahn pressers etc from the last couple off seasons. He made it a point that "players want to come here because we're ready to win" 

I'm guessing he was 100% completely full of s%*# when he said it. 

[Green Line]

Fire Hahn and bring back Hawk as GM.  We have to think like Reinsdorf.

[Bob Sacamano]

Please please please please please fire Rick

[joejoesox]

5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Please please please please please fire Rick

You do realize who's next in line right. (I've been saying Fire Rick Hahn on Twitter for about a week straight, but I also know that Getz (Hahn's protege) is next up which solves absolutely nothing)

[Dick Allen]

They can’t send anyone down. They have no one to call up. Another reason to fire Rick Hahn.

[Bob Sacamano]

18 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

You do realize who's next in line right. (I've been saying Fire Rick Hahn on Twitter for about a week straight, but I also know that Getz (Hahn's protege) is next up which solves absolutely nothing)

I don’t even care at this point.

[Dick Allen]

Rick Hahn has been GM since 2013. This is his 11th year, and his team has been over .500 only one year fans could attend games.  

[Chicago White Sox]

I can’t wait for the day that we never have to hear Rick’s lawyer speaking ass make excuses for poor results.  I’d wager large sums of money that no GM in Big Four sports history has served in such a capacity for 10+ years and has a worse winning percentage.

[caulfield12]

18 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

They can’t send anyone down. They have no one to call up. Another reason to fire Rick Hahn.

Frazier for Colas? 

[Timmy U]

19 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Rick Hahn has been GM since 2013. This is his 11th year, and his team has been over .500 only one year fans could attend games.  

Half a year. The second half of 2021 was a preview of 2022.

[Chicago White Sox]

Quote

"I’m not a King. I don’t sit in this chair by divine birthright. It’s an absolute privilege to be general manager of the White Sox, one that I need to continue to earn.” - Rick Hahn

[South Side Hit Men]

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I can’t wait for the day that we never have to hear Rick’s lawyer speaking ass make excuses for poor results.  I’d wager large sums of money that no GM in Big Four sports history has served in such a capacity for 10+ years and has a worse winning percentage.

"There are multiple GMs with a worse record than my tenure limited to recent MLB history, let alone four North American Sports Leagues. Obviously Soxtalk poster Chicago White Sox is a negative fan and doesn't know what he is talking about. Everybody fan I meet tells me I am awesome, as does my boss and our owner. I will continue to lead the Chicago White Sox as I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me."

- Rick Hahn April 28, 2023

MLB General Managers (1950 - 2022) with a decade plus consecutive tenure with one club:

1. .622 George Weiss 1,243 - 756 (New York AL 1948-1960) - 7 World Series & 3 AL Pennants
2. .593 John Schuerholz 1,594 - 1,092 (Atlanta 1991-2007) - 1 World Series & 4 NL Pennants
3. .589 Brian Cashman 2,322 - 1,622 (New York AL 1998-2022 (current)) - 4 World Series & 2 AL Pennants
4. .580 Bob Howsam 1,122 - 813 (Cincinnati 1967-1978) - 2 World Series & 2 NL Pennants
5. .571 Buzzie Bavasi 1,617 - 1,217 (Brooklyn & LA Dodgers 1951-1968) - 4 World Series & 4 NL Pennants
6. .551 Hank Peters 1,036 - 845 (Baltimore 1976-1987) - 1 World Series & 1 AL Pennant
7. .547 Chub Feeney 1,724 - 1,425 (NY NL & SF Giants 1950-1969) - 1 World Series & 2 NL Pennants
8. .546 Al Campanis 1,649 - 1,369 (Los Angeles Dodgers 1969-1987) - 1 World Series & 3 NL Pennants
9. .545 Paul Owens 942 - 785 (Philadelphia NL 1973-1983) - 1 World Series & 1 NL Pennant
10. .541 John Hart 927 - 786 (Cleveland 1991-2001) - 2 AL Pennants
11. .536 Walt Jocketty 1,117 - 968 (Saint Louis NL 1995-2007) - 1 World Series & 1 NL Pennant
12. .533 Brian Sabean 1,727 - 1,511 (San Francisco 1997-2016) - 3 World Series & 1 NL Pennant
13. .533 Billy Beane 1,552 - 1,362 (Oakland 1998-2015)
14. .530 Joe Brown 1,772 - 1,573 (Pittsburgh 1956-1976) - 2 World Series
15. .529 Dick O'Connell 1,194 - 1,062 (Boston AL 1961-1977) - 2 AL Pennants
16. .527 Frank Cashen 907 - 814 (New York NL 1980-1990) - 1 World Series
17. .527 Ron Schueler 817 - 734 (Chicago AL 1991-2000) 
18. .521 Charlie Finley 1,091 - 1,005 (Oakland 1968-1980) - 3 World Series
19. .521 Ken Williams 1,014 - 931 (Chicago AL 2001-2012) - 1 World Series
20. .520 Harry Dalton 1,149 - 1,062 (Milwaukee AL 1978-1991) - 1 AL Pennant
21. .520 Fred Claire 891 - 822 (Los Angeles Dodgers 1988-1998) - 1 World Series
22. .519 Jim Campbell 1,733 - 1,605 (Detroit 1963-1983) - 1 World Series
23. .518 Dal Maxvill 814 - 757 (Saint Louis NL 1985-1994) - 2 NL Pennants
24. .511 Jed Hoyer 776 - 742 (Chicago NL 2012-2021) - 1 World Series
25. .510 Pat Gillick 1,352 - 1,297 (Toronto 1978-1994) - 2 World Series
26. .509 Jon Daniels 1,186 - 1,143 (Texas 2006-2020) - 2 AL Pennants
27. .508 Sandy Alderson 1,200 - 1,164 (Oakland 1983-1997) - 1 World Series, 2 AL Pennants
28. .506 Bing Devine 898 - 877 (Saint Louis NL 1968-1978) - 1 NL Pennants
29. .499 Dave Dombrowski 1,050 - 1,056 (Detroit 2003-2015) - 2 AL Pennants
30. .499 Michael Rizzo 1,110 - 1,115 (Washington NL 2009-2022 (current)) - 1 World Series
31. .496 Jim Bowden 779 - 849 (Cincinnati 1993-2003)
32. .491 Terry Ryan 1,023 - 1,062 (Minnesota 1995-2007)
33. .489 Woody Woodward 837 - 876 (Seattle 1989-1999)
34. .489 Roland Hemond 999 - 1,042 (Chicago AL 1973-1985)
35. .488 Jack McKeon 764 - 803 (San Diego 1981-1990) - 1 NL Pennant
36. .488 Kevin Towers 1,108 - 1,161 (San Diego 1996 - 2009) - 1 NL Pennant
37. .486 Douglas Melvin 1,024 - 1,081 (Milwaukee NL 2003-2015)
38. .484 Tom Grieve 760 - 810 (Texas 1985-1994)
39. .480 Calvin Griffith 2,643 - 2,866 (Washington Senators & Minnesota Twins 1950-1984) - 1 AL Pennant
40. .470 Neal Huntington 989 - 1114 (Pittsburgh 2007-2019)
41. .466 John Holland 1,341 - 1,534 (Chicago NL 1957-1975) 
42. .464 Phil Seghi 943-1,091 (Cleveland 1973-1985)
43. .464 Daniel O'Dowd 1,129-1,302 (Colorado 2000-2014) - 1 NL Pennant
44. .461 Rick Hahn 700 - 817 (Chicago AL 2013-2022 (current))
45. .458 Dayton Moore 1,115 - 1,318 (Kansas City June 8 2006-2021) - 1 World Series & 1 AL Pennant
46. .457 John Quinn 1,022 - 1,213 (Philadelphia NL 1959-1972)

Source Baseball Cube - Note: No GM Records listed prior to 1950. Consecutive tenures under 10 years, even when a GM served more than 10 years total for a franchise, are not included above.

[Harold's Leg Lift]

No Rick you're not a king but your daddy was childhood friends with Jerry Reinsdorf so that entitled you to having a job for 11 years you were never remotely qualified to do so go f*** yourself you obnoxious dickbag.