ScootsMcGoots Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Ryan has been on fire as of late Incompetence at it's finest. Literally the definition of insanity. They're just throwing mud at the wall and hoping it sticks. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Rick Hahn literally hired this dude to be his manager in a must win season: I don't get blaming Grifol for that. At some point Eloy has to give you games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: I don't get blaming Grifol for that. At some point Eloy has to give you games. It’s insanity. Unless Eloy hits a home run, not likely with an injured groin (last HR 7/6), he is risking exacerbating his groin injury if he manages to reach base, or requires a pinch runner when you already have a limited bench with three catchers and Vaughn wearing a walking boot. This abysmal roster management results in infielders botching plays late in RF, because you have at least two position players on the active roster who should be on the IL (Eloy and Vaughn), with a third spot wasted because Perez is up for no legitimate reason. Fire Rick Hahn yesterday. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: It’s insanity. Unless Eloy hits a home run, not likely with an injured groin (last HR 7/6), he is risking exacerbating his groin injury if he manages to reach base, or requires a pinch runner when you already have a limited bench with three catchers and Vaughn wearing a walking boot. This abysmal roster management results in infielders botching plays late in RF, because you have at least two position players on the active roster who should be on the IL (Eloy and Vaughn), with a third spot wasted because Perez is up for no legitimate reason. Fire Rick Hahn yesterday. Perez will surely be one of the 2-3 catchers on the roster next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Just now, caulfield12 said: Perez will surely be one of the 2-3 catchers on the roster next year. That’s fine if the Sox are that desperate, but bring him up August 1 or 2024. However, he would be better off developing and playing regularly at Charlotte until then, as would the White Sox roster. Carlos has started one game since his July 1st call up. Just another example of abysmal roster management and player development. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Buehrle>Wood said: I don't get blaming Grifol for that. At some point Eloy has to give you games. If Eloy can’t run down the line, he shouldn’t be playing given his track record. Trying to squeak out one win at the potential expense of a multi-week injury isn’t worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Burger has been working at second again now with Moncada nearing a possible return. Said Coach Eddie helps him by hitting different colored baseballs that represent heavy lighter and normal weight baseballs...one of their favorite infield drills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If Eloy can’t run down the line, he shouldn’t be playing given his track record. Trying to squeak out one win at the potential expense of a multi-week injury isn’t worth it. He's going to get injured anyways. Who gives a f***? He's on the DL every month of his career. Some point he needs to suck it up and play. Oh and a HR as I type this. I guess that'll do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 "Rick Hahn suffered a wrist injury throwing a remote control on Sunday, and will be unavailable to meet with the media before the game today." - Scott Merkin 7/25/23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: ??? This of course is after Rick said they wanted to hire someone with recent playoff success as a manager. They then went with TLR, but Rick was seemingly in charge of hiring whoever he wanted with this manager…and went with Pedro. Insane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 hours ago, WBWSF said: Benintendi has turned out to be one of the best signings by Hahn. He's a good ballplayer. I'm glad he's on the team. Exactly, he’s the least of all the problems this team and franchise have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tony said: This of course is after Rick said they wanted to hire someone with recent playoff success as a manager. They then went with TLR, but Rick was seemingly in charge of hiring whoever he wanted with this manager…and went with Pedro. Insane 2021-2022 Tony La Russa 2011 World Series Champion Cardinals 2023-2025 Pedro Grifol 2015 World Series Champion Royals 2026-2029 Joe Maddon 2016 World Series Champion Cubs 2030-2032 A. J. Hinch 2017 World Series Champion Astros 2033-2037 Ozzie Guillen 2005 World Series Champion White Sox 17 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Exactly, he’s the least of all the problems this team and franchise have. Wait til next year, and the one after, and the one after, and the one after. LF is the third easiest defensive to fill beyond DH and 1B. He has no power, and likely will be a 1 ish WAR player per year from here on out. 2024 29 Chicago White Sox $17,100,000 2025 30 Chicago White Sox $17,100,000 2026 31 Chicago White Sox $17,100,000 2027 32 Chicago White Sox $15,100,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: 2021-2022 Tony La Russa 2011 World Series Champion Cardinals 2023-2025 Pedro Grifol 2015 World Series Champion Royals 2026-2029 Joe Maddon 2016 World Series Champion Cubs 2030-2032 A. J. Hinch 2017 World Series Champion Astros 2033-2037 Ozzie Guillen 2005 World Series Champion White Sox Wait til next year, and the one after, and the one after, and the one after. LF is the third easiest defensive to fill beyond DH and 1B. He has no power, and likely will be a 1 ish WAR player per year from here on out. 2024 29 Chicago White Sox $17,100,000 2025 30 Chicago White Sox $17,100,000 2026 31 Chicago White Sox $17,100,000 2027 32 Chicago White Sox $15,100,000 I mean, after this season he will be averaging 2 plus or minus about 0.3 fWAR over each of his last 4 full seasons. I’d sorta expect him to continue being a 2 WAR player for at least another year, he’s about the most consistently average player in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 43 minutes ago, Tony said: This of course is after Rick said they wanted to hire someone with recent playoff success as a manager. They then went with TLR, but Rick was seemingly in charge of hiring whoever he wanted with this manager…and went with Pedro. Insane A first time manager to appease JR, and a guy desperate for the gig that Hahn could control. Makes total sense to me. The rest was just hot air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 The Sox were going to suck regardless, but LaRussa was a bad manager. Pedro is worse. Anyone who wants to defend Pedro, what has he done to show he’s not one of the worst managers in baseball? If I hear we just need to flush it again, I’m going to puke. This was Ricks handpicked guy, and he really couldn’t be worse. Another Hahn fail. I see a pattern. Make it end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 19 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: No way Rick survives this season. He makes Dave Stewart look like John Schuerholz. I’m still convinced he doesn’t get fired. Maybe he resigns in humiliating fashion. I’m going to stick with I think he’s here next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: A first time manager to appease JR, and a guy desperate for the gig that Hahn could control. Makes total sense to me. The rest was just hot air. You’re absolutely right. Cheap and will do things their way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: I’m still convinced he doesn’t get fired. Maybe he resigns in humiliating fashion. I’m going to stick with I think he’s here next year. I’m 50/50 on him still being GM but 100% believe he is still in the FO in some capacity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: I’m 50/50 on him still being GM but 100% believe he is still in the FO in some capacity. If they were going to get rid of him they even had an excuse for how to do it easily - they could have asked KW to serve as interim GM while They conducted a search. The fact that he is still in charge right now days from the deadline definitely says he’s not leaving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 When Hawk was the GM, one thing JR called a mistake, they were 44-57 after 101 games. This team is 3 games worse in the middle of their multiple championship window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: If they were going to get rid of him they even had an excuse for how to do it easily - they could have asked KW to serve as interim GM while They conducted a search. The fact that he is still in charge right now days from the deadline definitely says he’s not leaving. That’s pretty much how I look at it. If they are still letting him make decisions now, they don’t seem to think he’s part of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Tony said: This of course is after Rick said they wanted to hire someone with recent playoff success as a manager. They then went with TLR, but Rick was seemingly in charge of hiring whoever he wanted with this manager…and went with Pedro. Insane And after the Royals passed on the guy despite their own opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: I’m 50/50 on him still being GM but 100% believe he is still in the FO in some capacity. I'm told Kenny is taking a very active role in these trade discussions. Hahn's been neutered. He's gone. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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