maloney.adam Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) Another thing to note is JR isn’t the only owner. There is a team of board members that own their stake in the franchise so if JR doesn’t have 100 percent ownership of the team and say if most of the owners are against spending for premium talent than JR can’t just override them and it’s fixed. There’s a lot of deadweight so hopefully the franchise is eventually sold to just one sole owner and not a partnership or a team of owners. Edited August 2, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: Why besmirch Pods? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 35 minutes ago, HoosierSox said: Serious? They are cheap. They make Jerry look like George Steinbrenner. Yeah we get a fuckin bougie ass bullpen, and non competitiveness. Pretty awesome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Another thing to note is JR isn’t the only owner. There is a team of board members that own their stake in the franchise so if JR doesn’t have 100 percent ownership of the team and say if a couple owners are against spending for premium talent than JR can’t just override them and it’s fixed. There’s a lot of deadweight so hopefully the franchise is eventually sold to just one sole owner and not a partnership or a team of owners. Jerry is allowed to make any decision he sees fit. It is in the general partnership agreement. He is the managing partner, and he will not have to consult the other minority shareholders to add or shed players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Jerry is allowed to make any decision he sees fit. It is in the general partnership agreement. He is the managing partner, and he will not have to consult the other minority shareholders to add or shed players. I am not defending anyone, just genuinely curious, how do we know this to be true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 In all fairness, the Indians did spend a ton in the 90’s…when they were selling out Jacobs year after year. Until around 2007-08 and the beginning of their third rebuild. Now they are on #5 or #6 in the span of just twenty five or thirty years. That’s when the cheapness but still quite competitive play really kicked off…especially under Francona. They were the second base team in baseball when the Cubs won it and a rain delay short of taking it all with a smaller budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Jerry is allowed to make any decision he sees fit. It is in the general partnership agreement. He is the managing partner, and he will not have to consult the other minority shareholders to add or shed players. Ah didn’t know that. Thanks for clearifying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 "OK Washington, I know you've got a deal in place for Soto and Bell, but what about this.....are you interested in a couple of has beens, and 2-3 never will bes? .....Hello?" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 trying to circle the shittiest player hahn is going to acquire. I think he will go after JD Martinez and puff his chests and our chuck will go "we just got JD fricken martinez!" (no offense). But he is still looking for his masterpiece. There has to be a nomar mazara type hahn still has in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, ScooterMcGuire said: I am not defending anyone, just genuinely curious, how do we know this to be true? Credit to @Dick Allen for referencing this article in the past. https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/whitesox/ct-xpm-2013-07-28-ct-spt-0728-white-sox-chicago-sports-20130728-story.html Quote But Reinsdorf, who recently became the longest-tenured owner in Major League Baseball, always has held virtually unfettered control of the team because he holds a majority stake in the corporation that runs the team, according to interviews with Reinsdorf and other partners. He said that gives him — and the executors of his will, whom he declined to name — authority to sell without the approval of other investors. Quote To raise the money, Reinsdorf recruited his friends, relatives and holdovers from Veeck's ownership group. The minimum investment was $250,000 — 1.32 percent stake of the team, according to court records — though Reinsdorf said he waived that for some. They agreed to his plan, which made Reinsdorf the majority shareholder in the team's general partner, which is the controlling entity. The rest of the company is made up of limited partners and minority shareholders in the general partner, none of whom has any control, according to interviews with a dozen of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Capn12 said: "OK Washington, I know you've got a deal in place for Soto and Bell, but what about this.....are you interested in a couple of has beens, and 2-3 never will bes? .....Hello?" "Dropped call" Quote U.S. Cellular doesn’t offer any unlimited data plan options and their data slows to 2G speeds when you reach your limit. If unlimited data is your priority, you may want to look into other carriers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: If Lance Lynn doesn't hurt his knee is spring training, they don't even sign Cueto. Lynn hurt his knee last year, chose rehab, and ended up in the exact same spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Will the Soto deal be the move that breaks the dam? Not that there were many teams in on Soto, but there was probably some wait and see attitudes by other teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Will the Soto deal be the move that breaks the dam? Not that there were many teams in on Soto, but there was probably some wait and see attitudes by other teams. At least for Happ it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 why are you guys talking like there haven't been plenty of deals? Literally every target that has been mentioned for the sox has moved. One of the best 5 players in baseball has been moved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, bmags said: why are you guys talking like there haven't been plenty of deals? Literally every target that has been mentioned for the sox has moved. One of the best 5 players in baseball has been moved. I mean for today atleast lol. I think there's plenty more before the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I wonder if Rick Hahn looks around the league at what other owners are willing to do financially and makes a sadface into the mirror when he shaves in the morning... or, if he could care less because he's a protected sports executive who'd have to take a hot shit on the hood of JR's Mercedes to get fired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I don't know if I want the Sox to bother acquiring anyone left. Happ is a good player but will be too expensive for a crappy minor league system like ours. At this point I'd sign Conforto and reload for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: I wonder if Rick Hahn looks around the league at what other owners are willing to do financially and makes a sadface into the mirror when he shaves in the morning... or, if he could care less because he's a protected sports executive who'd have to take a hot shit on the hood of JR's Mercedes to get fired... he should look around the league at what other GMs have built to have constant pipelines of talent to trade and look down at his 30th ranked farm masterpiece. If you had told me in 2019, or this board, that we'd have a 170 m budget, I'd have guessed a brilliant roster. He built the worst possible roster with that 170M. He decided to use his funds and buy a bunch of middle relievers and closers. He couldn't be a worse GM. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: I wonder if Rick Hahn looks around the league at what other owners are willing to do financially and makes a sadface into the mirror Rick Hahn's payroll is 7th in MLB, tired of this excuse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, bmags said: he should look around the league at what other GMs have built to have constant pipelines of talent to trade and look down at his 30th ranked farm masterpiece. If you had told me in 2019, or this board, that we'd have a 170 m budget, I'd have guessed a brilliant roster. He built the worst possible roster with that 170M. He decided to use his funds and buy a bunch of middle relievers and closers. He couldn't be a worse GM. Don't forget marginal utility players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, bmags said: he should look around the league at what other GMs have built to have constant pipelines of talent to trade and look down at his 30th ranked farm masterpiece. If you had told me in 2019, or this board, that we'd have a 170 m budget, I'd have guessed a brilliant roster. He built the worst possible roster with that 170M. He decided to use his funds and buy a bunch of middle relievers and closers. He couldn't be a worse GM. I really want the Twins to get Rodon. Maybe that would be the embarrassing moment that finally gets Teflon Hahn blasted by the media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, reiks12 said: Rick Hahn's payroll is 7th in MLB, tired of this excuse Idgaf about the total payroll. Who it is spent on matters, and that's on Jerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, almagest said: Don't forget marginal utility players! I swore after 2015/6 that finally we'd never have to pay for bonifacio/keppinger type players again and Hahn signed a 80 wrc player for a 3 year deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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