GREEDY Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: If you read James Fegan from today, it seems as if Joc Pederson and Andrew Chafin were targets. No idea why or how they couldn’t consummate those deals Money? I suppose if you are offering non-prospects and no money it might be tough to get it done? Because I'd assume that picking up the remainder of '22 should have been attractive to both SF and DET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, GREEDY said: Money? I suppose if you are offering non-prospects and no money it might be tough to get it done? Because I'd assume that picking up the remainder of '22 should have been attractive to both SF and DET. SF doesn't care that much about money as talent return. Detroit more complicated, but the Guardians dealt Sandy Leon to their rival the Twins so anything is possible with a mutual interest/benefit in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Apparently the Blue Jays didn't confirm with Merrifield he would get vaccinated before the trade. GM Ross Atkins "addresses" the situation Hahn style at the 6:00 mark: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 So they traded for a guy without a vax agreement playing half of his games in Canada? Wow, what a fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So they traded for a guy without a vax agreement playing half of his games in Canada? Wow, what a fumble. They made the deal last minute. They probably thought there's no way this guy won't take half his paycheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 The Red Sox just DFA'd JBJ. He's obviously bad at the plate (except against us apparently), but he'd probably be the 2nd best defensive OFer on the team. Nobody will claim him but if the Red Sox release him he'd be a cheap pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, chw42 said: The Red Sox just DFA'd JBJ. He's obviously bad at the plate (except against us apparently), but he'd probably be the 2nd best defensive OFer on the team. Nobody will claim him but if the Red Sox release him he'd be a cheap pick up. He'd be worth it just a guy who can actually play defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He'd be worth it just a guy who can actually play defense. Especially considering how unreliable Engel and Robert are health-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He'd be worth it just a guy who can actually play defense. The problem at this point is that Sheets is the only position player who can realistically be sent down, and with Grandal and Moncada not being reliable you actually need Sheets' bat in the lineup. if you're not willing to DFA Engel, there's really no room for a waiver claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 minute ago, CentralChamps21 said: The problem at this point is that Sheets is the only position player who can realistically be sent down, and with Grandal and Moncada not being reliable you actually need Sheets' bat in the lineup. if you're not willing to DFA Engel, there's really no room for a waiver claim. If Robert is playing, Sheets isn't going to be in the line up anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: The problem at this point is that Sheets is the only position player who can realistically be sent down, and with Grandal and Moncada not being reliable you actually need Sheets' bat in the lineup. if you're not willing to DFA Engel, there's really no room for a waiver claim. Gavin's month-by-month splits aren't good enough for me to worry about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: SF doesn't care that much about money as talent return. Detroit more complicated, but the Guardians dealt Sandy Leon to their rival the Twins so anything is possible with a mutual interest/benefit in mind. James was asking how the deals couldn't have gotten done. Both teams would have traded either player for the money remaining due to them and a "save face" nothing prospect or if they had to pick up the money then they'd want a real prospect in return. The Sox either weren't interested or didn't offer either the money or a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Joc Pederson I guess is a better option than Sheets, but he's just another DH masquerading as an awful corner OF. I really don't think he would have been a very good fit. Assuming the team is healthy, I guess you could turn Pollock into a straight weakside platoon bat to get Joc OF starts against RHP...but yeah, I just....am not that disappointed we didn't get him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: He'd be worth it just a guy who can actually play defense. An outfield of Eloy, Robert, and JBJ or Pollock, Robert, and JBJ is better than what we have now. I don't see the Sox picking him up, though, especially considering they'd have to do something with Sheets or Engel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Didi Gregorius just released as well, having a putrid season, however still a better OPS than Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 11 hours ago, JoeCredeYes said: Didi Gregorius just released as well, having a putrid season, however still a better OPS than Legend. Phillies actually trying to make the postseason, firing managers and benching or DFAing unproductive hitters… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 12 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Phillies actually trying to make the postseason, firing managers and benching or DFAing unproductive hitters… and actually letting Stott figure it out in the bigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Braves are quite the opportunists. They get a solid starter from the Astros for a struggling reliever. And they get Iglesias from the Angels for basically nothing in terms of players but they do have a significant contractual obligation; but not terribly risky, as Iglesias has never had a bad season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Braves are quite the opportunists. They get a solid starter from the Astros for a struggling reliever. And they get Iglesias from the Angels for basically nothing in terms of players but they do have a significant contractual obligation; but not terribly risky, as Iglesias has never had a bad season. Yeah I'd say AA is pretty good at trade deadlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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