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8/13 Gamethread: Tigers @ Sox, Manning v. Giolito


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  On 8/13/2022 at 11:51 PM, chw42 said:

I mean what pitcher wouldn't be pissed? That's a fairly routine catch for a ML outfielder and Eloy didn't even come close. 

Lucas got screwed that inning by the umpire and Eloy. 

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If you don’t like the defense strike someone out then.  He should’ve called it but the guy hit it 370 feet the opposite way so he wasn’t exactly fooled

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  On 8/14/2022 at 12:01 AM, fathom said:

this is just not a good pitcher.  Keeps getting ahead and then missing too much.  Really wish they’d ditch the slider for the curve 

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I could be wrong but when Lucas was successful he was heavy fastall/change up. It seems to be fastball/slider this year. 

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  On 8/14/2022 at 12:03 AM, Jack Parkman said:

I was looking at what the biggest difference between the last 3 years and this year for Giolito is. It's his fastball. He had a lot more carry on it the last 3 years vs this year. It makes everything else easier for hitters to read and react to. 

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He really should be non-tendered and the money spent on a better pitcher, but we know they won’t do that.

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  On 8/14/2022 at 12:03 AM, Jack Parkman said:

I was looking at what the biggest difference between the last 3 years and this year for Giolito is. It's his fastball. He had a lot more carry on it the last 3 years vs this year. It makes everything else easier for hitters to read and react to. 

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Lack of sticky stuff = less carry. If you don't have high velo like Lucas, late movement is the only way you can strike guys out on the pitch consistently. 

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