Yoan to IL, Leury is back, Lynn to bereavement list, Martin up to start

[Lip Man 1]

Just now, Chick Mercedes said:

That’s a fine take if tou don’t consider his salary. We have already seen the White Sox hit the invisible ceiling. This player is a major albatross now. If someone offered pennies on the dollar, take it. Its easy to find a hired glove at third base.

And to think at one time this guy was the absolute #1 prospect in all of minor league baseball.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

52 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

The wording of the Lynn bereavement list was a bit odd, I thought. 

 

Was watching Robert swing the bat basically with 1 hand and funny thing was I liked some of his swings better. He looked like he really let loose on some of those swings.

[South Side Hit Men]

9 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

I think we can also agree that Moncada is injury prone, two or three times just this year on the IL. 

Nope, just this season.

2018 Age 23 season.

• 2018 149 Games (92%)
• 2019 132 Games (82%)
• 2020 52 Games (87% w COVID)
• 2021 144 Games (89%)

 

 

Edited August 27, 2022 by South Side Hit Men

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

3 hours ago, fathom said:

I’m not willing to take the risk that he rediscovers how to hit for 2 years, 40 million dollars.  Off the field is another place I’m not willing to take the risk that he grows up.

Right, knowing when to cut your losses is key to moving on. If he hits well somewhere else , great that team can pay him. Knowing the Sox they will hang onto him rather than trade him and eat some money which they may have to do if they trade him.

Of course this may apply to others too.

[Lip Man 1]

18 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Nope, just this season.

2018 Age 23 season.

• 2018 149 Games (92%)
• 2019 132 Games (82%)
• 2020 52 Games (87% w COVID)
• 2021 144 Games (89%)

 

 

This is information gathered from the White Sox media guide and the Fox Sports web site:

From the media guide:

2018-IL Hamstring (missed 5-5 to 5-14)

2019-IL Hamstring (missed 7-31 to 8-22)

2020-COVID (missed most of summer camp)

2021-Bruised hand (missed 7-1 to 7-4)

2022-IL Oblique (missed 4-7 to 5/9)

2022-Quad injury (couldn't find if he went on IL or not)

2022-Hamstring (missed 8/26 to ???)

The Fox web site lists this under his injuries that caused him to miss time. They don't have specifics if he went on the IL or not.  

DATE	INJURY
8/25/22	Hamstring
7/6/22	Foot
6/17/22	Hamstring
5/28/22	Quad
4/7/22	Oblique
7/1/21	Hand
6/15/21	Illness
8/29/20	Leg
7/30/19	Hamstring
6/26/19	Knee
6/16/19	Back
6/10/19	Back
6/2/19	Leg Soreness
5/5/18	Left hamstring tightness
5/4/18	Left hamstring tightness
4/21/18	Sore left hamstring

 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Lip Man 1

[fathom]

It’s less about Yoan missing games and more about him being at like 60-70 pct for a portion of games

[Lip Man 1]

34 minutes ago, fathom said:

It’s less about Yoan missing games and more about him being at like 60-70 pct for a portion of games

That's a valid point. It seems in many of the games he plays he never seems to be at 100%.

[Lip Man 1]

My own personal take is that the Sox are finished and they should shut down Grandal, Anderson, Moncada, Jimenez and Robert for the season. Give them a head start on recovering, give them more time. Some of these guys may want to play in the WBC which means they'll need as much time off as they can get. While I always want to see the Sox at least have a winning season there really isn't much difference between 83 wins and 75.

The Sox could improve their draft position by "tanking" the final month, just play the rookies, the scrubs and the guys who aren't coming back next year anyway.

Then in the off season they need to do a house cleaning with the baseball side of the operations including the medical, training and conditioning staffs.

[South Side Hit Men]

2 hours ago, fathom said:

It’s less about Yoan missing games and more about him being at like 60-70 pct for a portion of games

I would say this is more of a fare assessment, though he still both plays and gets far more production than most players across MLB. He averages in the Top 2 on a MLB team in both games played and production.

Since his 2018 permanent callup:

Hitter fWAR Rank - All Players: 52nd (12.1)

Hitter Games Played - All Players: 60th (557 games played)

Hitter Games Played - Pier age group (27) or younger: 20th

Yoan and Tim have been injured this season, but have played the amount of games one could expect over their careers.

Robert and Eloy are consistently injured year in and year out, and miss significant playing time on a consistent basis. That is my definition of injury prone, one who just can't stay on the field on a regular basis either due to injury severity or pain tolerance for less severe injuries.

To tell you the truth, if I was playing I would do what I could to return to the field, but on this team in 2022, I would look at the pathetic situation, culture and management and would definitely consider saying fuck it. I don't think there are more than a handful of White Sox today who are happy they are playing for Reinsdorf, Hahn and La Russa.

Why put yourself at health and contract risk for these inept assclowns who own and operate this pathetic franchise, and prioritize employing unqualified embarrassing senior FO and field management over trying to field the best team possible. You need to look out for your professional and financial interests first, because that is the lone personal consideration of Jerry, Rick and Tony, all of who would fuck you over as a player in a heartbeat, unless you are one of their pets like Leury, Lynn, Kelly, or puts up with this horseshit as a loyal soldier like Abreu.

Edited August 28, 2022 by South Side Hit Men