reiks12 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 https://theathletic.com/3544718/2022/08/30/white-sox-lineup-home-runs/?source=emp_shared_article Here come the excuses. Other notables from the article: -Pulling the ball is out of Vaughn's approach -Hitters confused why their fly balls the opposite way are only getting to the warning track -Sox are one of the worst teams in MLB at pulling the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, reiks12 said: https://theathletic.com/3544718/2022/08/30/white-sox-lineup-home-runs/?source=emp_shared_article Here come the excuses. Other notables from the article: -Pulling the ball is out of Vaughn's approach -Hitters confused why their fly balls the opposite way are only getting to the warning track -Sox are one of the worst teams in MLB at pulling the ball That tells me they have a lineup that can't catch up to fastballs, which is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) They are too right handed. They need to add more LHH’s to balance out the lineup. They also have too many position players that play multiple positions or out of position so they need to trade one or two of them. Edited August 30, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 We wound up discussing this in three threads so the posts are scattered, but I see no evidence that supports this contention in the available public statistics. Rather, RF at the Rate is the most homer friendly area in MLB this season. This claim is the opposite of what the data shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 A good hitting coach would adjust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Said the Guardians and Twins NEVER once this season...hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: We wound up discussing this in three threads so the posts are scattered, but I see no evidence that supports this contention in the available public statistics. Rather, RF at the Rate is the most homer friendly area in MLB this season. This claim is the opposite of what the data shows. Yep, Fegan does a good job at stating how bullshit Menechino's claim is at blaming the baseball at GRF. Starts off with talking about current White Sox approach, how the league does at GRF, how bad the Sox are there, and how they never pull the ball in the air. A subtle chefs kiss fuck you to Menechino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, Quin said: A good hitting coach would adjust More than that...I would bet you that some of the White Sox hitters actually believe this if they're spouting it...and that means they're adjusting to the wrong things. A good hitting coach wouldn't just adjust, they'd acquire correct data and help the hitters to understand that they're missing the real trend. Oh a couple balls got caught up in the wind earlier this season? Yeah but here's 8 examples of fly balls to RF that were helped by the conditions on dates x, y, and z for other teams. Here's the video, look what these guys did. We can take advantage of that same set of conditions by doing this on a normal day and changing our approach only when teh temperature drops below 50 degrees. But then...you need to have someone processing that data to be able to point to the examples that didn't get stuck in the players' minds. An analytically minded department, one might say. And then a coach who understands that kind of data exists and is willing and able to use it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: That tells me they have a lineup that can't catch up to fastballs, which is bad. Do you think they just forgot how to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Quin said: A good hitting coach would adjust A good franchise would seek a lot of LHH players instead of trying to make their RHH hitters hit the ball to where LHH's hit it. Of course with the hitting coach he'd be having the LHH hitting it to LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Do you think they just forgot how to do that Not necessarily, but with the younger players I question if they ever could. But that could just be because of Menechino's approach and that some of these guys have never had a different hitting coach. Given the success they had in 2019, I will never understand replacing Steverson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, maloney.adam said: They are too right handed. They need to add more LHH’s to balance out the lineup. They also have too many position players that play multiple positions or out of position so they need to trade one or two of them. Why would we add legit left handed savagery when we hate winning? We are an organization that loves excuse making, squandering resources on crap rather than making a concerted effort to substantially address major needs, living in the past, using media assets to deflect from real issues, and are perfectly happy to put our head in the sand when it comes to facing long standing problems. All of these things are anathema to savagery and are thus not conducive to winning. If you don't want to add a savage you don't want to win. It's that simple. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Does the humidor only work on white sox bats? Does the humidor generate ground balls? Edited August 30, 2022 by southsideirish71 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: Does the humidor only work on white sox bats? Does the humidor generate ground balls? All you can do is laugh at this pathetic organization 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJSox_22 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Quin said: A good hitting coach would adjust Menechino is on record saying the approach is to hit fastballs opposite way and pull breaking balls. most HR hitters in MLB are looking for fastballs in the zone to turn on, or hanging breaking pitches. it’s a bad approach the Sox are being guided toward 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 That article is probably the most obvious proof that these clowns have no idea what they are doing. We all knew the ball wasn’t juiced anymore and that adjustments were needed ASAP. Unfortunately, Hahn & Frank stayed the course and punted away the season. Both guys should be banned from baseball for this gross negligence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Jerry probably heard manfreds call on the juiced ball being bad and voluntarily deadened the balls for his team to be an example for other owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I would love someone to ask the question, "do the balls the white sox pitchers pitch also go in the humidor?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) I'm not sure how the Sox and Menechino saw what they did against Houston in the playoffs last year and thought, "yeah we just need to keep putting the ball in play weakly". I'm not saying every Sox hitter should try to pull the ball in the air cause not every hitter is suited for that, but it's clear that many of our hitters would benefit from that approach since their power is being sapped by the current approach. Edited August 30, 2022 by chw42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Wow! This really puts into perspective how much this loser franchise is finding new ways to completely embarrass themselves nationally! Now our pathetic manager and hitting coach are spewing this total BS trying to rationalize their lack of home runs. Most good managers and hitting coaches would be embarrassed to even think of stating such nonsense. This season is becoming the ultimate circus and trainwreck during my long and loyal White Sox fandom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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