KrankinSox Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: White Sox Winning Percentage & Payroll Rank 2020: .583 / 17th 2021: .574 / 15th 2022: .504 / 7th Mo Money, Mo Tony, Mo Problems Who has that additional payroll been spent on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, KrankinSox said: Who has that additional payroll been spent on? A good portion on guys Tony wanted her or wanted back, including Eaton, Lynn, Leury and Kelly. Couple that with Hahn’s worse impulses such as his “biggest idea” Kimbrel, and you are where the Sox are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harry Chappas Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I still say he has COVID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Change the locks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hi8is Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: They were a vibrant young team that played with fire coming off a playoff berth looking like a juggernaut for the next half decade +. Now they’re lifeless and boring, just like their manager. Injuries and lack of a finishing roster moves have played a big role, but so has Bologna. Pal. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: A good portion on guys Bologna wanted her or wanted back, including Eaton, Lynn, Leury and Kelly. Couple that with Hahn’s worse impulses such as his “biggest idea” Kimbrel, and you are where the Sox are. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Maybe TLR won't come back, after all. Then surely the young, vibrant team will win the World Series with Messiah Cairo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 So the PR department got a phone call telling them to push back on Heyman’s reporting??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: So the PR department got a phone call telling them to push back on Heyman’s reporting??? Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Perhaps the front office intentionally floated the idea of a possible return, in an attempt to gauge the reaction. It's hard to believe that they are so obtuse that they haven't figured it out yet. However, why should we have confidence that they know what they're doing. I don't care how this all plays out, as long as the Sox have a different manager, next season. Loyal fans deserve better than all of this unnecessary drama. This organization has managed to become very difficult to support. Frankly, even if they win the division, if their record is just a little over .500, and they succeed in the post season, it would be a hallow, tainted victory, for many. The Sox don't belong in the same company as great teams, which have compiled significant winning records, during the season. What if they played the Dodgers, in the World Series and won. Would anyone really think that the Sox were a better team than the Dodgers? Just get this season over with, and try to fix it, before this window closes. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lillian said: Perhaps the front office intentionally floated the idea of a possible return, in an attempt to gauge the reaction. It's hard to believe that they are so obtuse that they haven't figured it out yet. However, why should we have confidence that they know what they're doing. I don't care how this all plays out, as long as the Sox have a different manager, next season. Loyal fans deserve better than all of this unnecessary drama. This organization has managed to become very difficult to support. Frankly, even if they win the division, if their record is just a little over .500, and they succeed in the post season, it would be a hallow, tainted victory, for many. The Sox don't belong in the same company as great teams, which have compiled significant winning records, during the season. What if they played the Dodgers, in the World Series and won. Would anyone really think that the Sox were a better team than the Dodgers? Just get this season over with, and try to fix it, before this window closes. It’s not up to the front office. If it was, Hinch would be our manager. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lillian said: Perhaps the front office intentionally floated the idea of a possible return, in an attempt to gauge the reaction. It's hard to believe that they are so obtuse that they haven't figured it out yet. However, why should we have confidence that they know what they're doing. I don't care how this all plays out, as long as the Sox have a different manager, next season. Loyal fans deserve better than all of this unnecessary drama. This organization has managed to become very difficult to support. Frankly, even if they win the division, if their record is just a little over .500, and they succeed in the post season, it would be a hallow, tainted victory, for many. The Sox don't belong in the same company as great teams, which have compiled significant winning records, during the season. What if they played the Dodgers, in the World Series and won. Would anyone really think that the Sox were a better team than the Dodgers? Just get this season over with, and try to fix it, before this window closes. If this team plays the dodgers in the World Series and wins… it’s fucking party time. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: It’s not up to the front office. If it was, Hinch would be our manager. If not Hinch, anyone but the rotting corpse of TLR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, KrankinSox said: I've criticized TLR plenty. I defend him against the complete insanity I read sometimes. There's people on here who actually believe the team is magically healed now because TLR left for a couple weeks. As if his departure is definitely the spark we needed. That's why I like to joke that the team is playing well now because their skip is in the hospital and their busting their ass for him. I think you are being very logical in how you approach this but the manager or head coach is always the 1st to go in sports when things are disappointing. There are obviously many things wrong with the Sox organization but there really isn't a need to stick up for TLR. I know it's a white knight kind of thing to do especially in the face of some of the awful and callous things you've read . Hahn has plenty of haters too. That's why there is also a Fire Hahn thread. The best thing for your argument is that Tony doesn't come back and the Sox revert back to who they were all season with him which is pretty likely to happen. If you want the Sox to win then maybe he should not come back if the small sample size without him means anything. I know the magically healed thing without him might seem absurd but that's how these things often work in sports. It happened this season for other teams like the Phillies and Toronto. The mid level manager type on the field has a team under his direct hand that has failed . He must be the 1st to go like people were talking about Menechino being the fall guy because upper middle management will not fire themselves. The best thing for the short term health of the Sox is Tony gone. The best thing for the longer term team health is Jerry gone and that's not necessarily a given if a new owner isn't any better considering Sox fans have been waiting for an owner that knows how to grow the franchise and also how to win for a very very long time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, hi8is said: If this team plays the dodgers in the World Series and wins… it’s fucking party time. Any team can win a series against another team. Would you honestly delude yourself into believing that the Sox were the better team? I wouldn't. I would just call it luck. How long has it been that the Sox have been playing .500 baseball? So winning the worst division in baseball, with barely a winning record, would make you very happy, as long as they won a few post season series and the World Series. It wouldn't be very satisfying for me, after watching an entire season of mediocrity. I guess that I'm harder to please. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I'm pretty sure that few would recognize the Sox as deserving champions, in that scenario. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lillian said: Any team can win a series against another team. Would you honestly delude yourself into believing that the Sox were the better team? I wouldn't. I would just call it luck. How long has it been that the Sox have been playing .500 baseball? So winning the worst division in baseball, with barely a winning record, would make you very happy, as long as they won a few post season series and the World Series. It wouldn't be very satisfying for me, after watching an entire season of mediocrity. I guess that I'm harder to please. Simple pleasures are the best. Baseball having more teams in the playoffs was designed to get underdog champions .Flags fly forever. If the 1917 Sox won a World Series because there was a playoff system and they were thought of as a weaker teams there aren't any people left from around that time who would care. The beauty of baseball is a hot team can beat the best team. But 3 rounds are designed to weed out the weak but it is easier to be hot over a months worth of playoffs than a 162 game season. I'd be perfectly fine with a World Series win under most any circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: It’s not up to the front office. If it was, Hinch would be our manager. Pretty sure the entire organization in October, including graphics guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, Lillian said: Any team can win a series against another team. Would you honestly delude yourself into believing that the Sox were the better team? I wouldn't. I would just call it luck. How long has it been that the Sox have been playing .500 baseball? So winning the worst division in baseball, with barely a winning record, would make you very happy, as long as they won a few post season series and the World Series. It wouldn't be very satisfying for me, after watching an entire season of mediocrity. I guess that I'm harder to please. I wouldn’t give a rats ass and would be stoked that we won another World Series. ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkChopExpress Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Wouldn’t he be breaking one of those unwritten rules if he came back? Don’t f*** with a streak. Keep on winning boys! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, hi8is said: I wouldn’t give a rats ass and would be stoked that we won another World Series. ? Exactly, both the Giants and Dodgers had better overall record than the Braves last season yet no one will remember that and I bet no Braves fan is complaining that Atlanta won. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) I can't believe there is still Tony jock sniffers around these parts. I hope that motherfucker stays far the f*** away from the team! Edited September 9, 2022 by pettie4sox spelling error 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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