sin city sox fan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 And this interim manager should be Ozzie Guillen. As the only manager to win a world series on the south side in most of our lifetimes, let's see if he can create similar magic or if this team needs to be blown up. Tony may be done forever and it's not too soon to start thing about the future. Br>ng back the greatest manager ever and let's win a ring in Tony's honor. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, sin city sox fan said: And this interim manager should be Ozzie Guillen. As the only manager to win a world series on the south side in most of our lifetimes, let's see if he can create similar magic or if this team needs to be blown up. Tony may be done forever and it's not too soon to start thing about the future. Br>ng back the greatest manager ever and let's win a ring in Tony's honor. They already did appoint someone...his name is Miguel Cairo. Regarding Ozzie, while I appreciate what he did for the franchise and the candor he shows it's hard to overlook things as to how he decided to leave: September 26, 2011 – He was considered the face of the franchise for eight seasons but on this night after a 4-3 win over Toronto, manager Ozzie Guillen announced he was leaving after owner Jerry Reinsdorf agreed to let him out of the final year of his contract. Guillen, who was the 1985 A.L. Rookie of the Year with the White Sox, won the World Series in 2005 and also got the club into the playoffs in 2008. He had five winning seasons in the eight years as manager and was named Manager of the Year for his work in 2005. In that magical season of 2005, “Ozzieball” resulted in the Sox getting off to the best start in their history and with a perfect blend of pitching, speed, power and the ability to execute the fundamentals the Sox were in first place from wire to wire. Then they blitzed through the post season putting together an 11-1 record that was the third best post season record in baseball history. Guillen’s passion and enthusiasm for the franchise was unparalleled but at times he was his own worst enemy. Over his final years in Chicago, he became increasingly thin-skinned and defensive when criticism was directed his way and he lashed out at Sox fans on more than one occasion. Among his famous rants against the fans were one where he said that they could ‘‘Turn off their TVs and stop watching the game if they don’t like the [bleep]ing lineup’’ and another in May 2011 where he claimed Sox fans would not remember him “As soon as you leave the ballpark, they don’t care about you. They don’t. The monuments, the statues…they pee on them when they get drunk.” On the afternoon of the day he left the team Guillen told reporters that he would not want to return to fulfill his 2012 contract unless he got an extension and more money. Ozzie’s relationship with G.M. Kenny Williams also deteriorated over the final few years because the two men appeared to have different viewpoints over how the roster should be constructed and the style to which the Sox should play. The Jim Thome/DH controversy was an example of the different ideas. Guillen’s family didn’t help the situation with social media comments derogatory to Williams. Many felt when Ozzie was hired in November 2003 that he was the right man for the right team at the right time and for a few years he was. Unfortunately, the manager with the longest tenure since Al Lopez let some personal foibles override a good situation and it was best for all that a parting of the ways took place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 We need to look outside the current regime to light the fire under this team. And just as Jerry realized he made a mistake firing Tony, I'm sure he realizes he made a mistake not giving Ozzie a lifetime contract. Now is the time to rectify that before it's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sin city sox fan said: We need to look outside the current regime to light the fire under this team. And just as Jerry realized he made a mistake firing Tony, I'm sure he realizes he made a mistake not giving Ozzie a lifetime contract. Now is the time to rectify that before it's too late. Ozzie is not going to save this team and organization. It’s someone that doesn’t have ties to the organization. However, JR has different priorities and will not hire someone from outside the organization so the only way things will change is if he sells the team and to whom. Edited August 31, 2022 by maloney.adam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 Ozzie will save this team and the organization if given the opportunity. I dont think its arguable that if he had stayed our manager all these years, the White Sox would have at least 8-10 more World Series titles. And this team has more talent than most teams we fielded in the last 15 years. It's time to realize it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, sin city sox fan said: Ozzie will save this team and the organization if given the opportunity. I dont think its arguable that if he had stayed our manager all these years, the White Sox would have at least 8-10 more World Series titles. And this team has more talent than most teams we fielded in the last 15 years. It's time to realize it. I'm assuming you are either being sarcastic or are an adolescent trying to get a laugh out of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Can we please learn our lesson about rehiring retreads of our own? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 One ex player I would support is Sandy Alomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Can we please learn our lesson about rehiring retreads of our own? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 I was told if/when the Dr clears him LaRussa will be back with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 It doesn't matter who manages the White Sox at this point. This is a .500 team at best. The season was over a long time ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I was told if/when the Dr clears him LaRussa will be back with the team. Yep, what a shitshow. Probably the worst possible thing that could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, sin city sox fan said: And this interim manager should be Ozzie Guillen. As the only manager to win a world series on the south side in most of our lifetimes, let's see if he can create similar magic or if this team needs to be blown up. Tony may be done forever and it's not too soon to start thing about the future. Br>ng back the greatest manager ever and let's win a ring in Tony's honor. Grate idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I was told if/when the Dr clears him LaRussa will be back with the team. Maybe the Soxtalk outage can effect a change in that likelihood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, fathom said: Yep, what a shitshow. Probably the worst possible thing that could happen. I mean, did you seriously expect him to be gone for good? That is wishful thinking. LaRussa is here for probably as long as he wants to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 3 hours ago, sin city sox fan said: And this interim manager should be Ozzie Guillen. As the only manager to win a world series on the south side in most of our lifetimes, let's see if he can create similar magic or if this team needs to be blown up. Tony may be done forever and it's not too soon to start thing about the future. Br>ng back the greatest manager ever and let's win a ring in Tony's honor. I'd rather have diarrhea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I was told if/when the Dr clears him LaRussa will be back with the team. Trade him for Kelenic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 I wouldn't have any problem with bringing in Ozzie as part of a last ditch effort to save this season, but only if he would publicly state that he is not interested in keeping the job and that they should go outside the organization for a permanent replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 If they had any guts they'd have named Johnny Cueto manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossanoveralls Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 14 hours ago, sin city sox fan said: Ozzie will save this team and the organization if given the opportunity. I dont think its arguable that if he had stayed our manager all these years, the White Sox would have at least 8-10 more World Series titles. And this team has more talent than most teams we fielded in the last 15 years. It's time to realize it. You lost me at "Ozzie will". The rest is just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 12 hours ago, T R U said: I mean, did you seriously expect him to be gone for good? That is wishful thinking. LaRussa is here for probably as long as he wants to be. Actually I do think it could be for good! Maybe it is wishing thinking, however maybe it could be for medical reasons. What we don't know yet is how serious his health condition is. I am sure they are doing extensive medical tests on him. The fact is if some of the tests for example reveal some heart issues such as blockage or narrowing of the arteries, that involves some surgical procedures, there is no way in hell he comes back to manage this season or in the future at his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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