caulfield12 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 We thought it was 2012 again, with the Sox playing the role of the Tigers vs. the upstart rookie-laden Sox played by CLE/MIN. 2003 Chicago White Sox Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com Look at the fifth starters' numbers for 2003, it was Wright, Stewart, Cotts and Porzio. Mike Porzio was far and away the best of those four. Compare those numbers to Kenny Rogers, who the White Sox could have affordably signed. This year, we have Cueto (19 starts), Velasquez (8 starts), Keuchel (8 starts), Davis Martin (5 starts), Lambert (2 starts), Kelly (1-2 starts), etc. Compare to what the Twins have quite cheaply gotten out of Bundy (especially head to head vs. the Sox), Archer, Ryan (trade for Nelson Cruz), etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: We thought it was 2012 again, with the Sox playing the role of the Tigers vs. the upstart rookie-laden Sox played by CLE/MIN. 2003 Chicago White Sox Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com Look at the fifth starters' numbers for 2003, it was Wright, Stewart, Cotts and Porzio. Mike Porzio was far and away the best of those four. Compare those numbers to Kenny Rogers, who the White Sox could have affordably signed. This year, we have Cueto (19 starts), Velasquez (8 starts), Keuchel (8 starts), Davis Martin (5 starts), Lambert (2 starts), Kelly (1-2 starts), etc. Compare to what the Twins have quite cheaply gotten out of Bundy (especially head to head vs. the Sox), Archer, Ryan (trade for Nelson Cruz), etc. Lack of a competent fifth starter cost the Sox playoffs spots in both 2003 and 1996, moreso in 03 but they were a factor in the Sox blowing a 40-21 start in 1996. And I remember the Rogers situation, his agent wanted a million from the Sox...KW said "no." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: Lack of a competent fifth starter cost the Sox playoffs spots in both 2003 and 1996, moreso in 03 but they were a factor in the Sox blowing a 40-21 start in 1996. And I remember the Rogers situation, his agent wanted a million from the Sox...KW said "no." Dylan Bundy was just $1.8 million, recall Chris Archer being in the Cueto range but not prorated over 135 days out of 180. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkChopExpress Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 But you’re assuming that any of those guys would perform the same with the Sox as they have with the Twins. The Twins always seem to get more out of their players, and the Sox end players’ careers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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