Vote4Pedro Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 And through 136 games this ball club is once again at .500 Thankfully we only have 26 more of these boys…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, chw42 said: Sheets and Vaughn are slow pitch softball corner outfielders. If the Sox were an NFL team all of their receivers would have left tackle speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: I was talking to a friend of mine who's a big baseball fan and really big into fantasy baseball. We were talking about Cease and he asked me if there was anyone besides Cease that has outperformed expectations on the team this year. I immediately said Cueto, but after that...I literally couldn't think of anyone else. It's amazing that not one guy on the offensive side of the ball has had a career year or even a real good year by their standards. Lopez, Lambert. The offense has been a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: I was talking to a friend of mine who's a big baseball fan and really big into fantasy baseball. We were talking about Cease and he asked me if there was anyone besides Cease that has outperformed expectations on the team this year. I immediately said Cueto, but after that...I literally couldn't think of anyone else. It's amazing that not one guy on the offensive side of the ball has had a career year or even a real good year by their standards. It is the one thing that gives me hope for next year - most are due to bounce back - but the issues can't be ignored cause they are real. For example - Grandal is clearly done or a much more part time player given his knee. And the defense clearly sucks and that isnt' on Vaughn/Sheets - that is on the GM for handing the mgr such a flawed defensive roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 These are the games you gotta win if you want to be a playoff team. These are the games we've been losing all year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Amazing to see so many better bullpens than ours, especially built on the cheap. (Rick Hahn) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, Chisoxfn said: It is the one thing that gives me hope for next year - most are due to bounce back - but the issues can't be ignored cause they are real. For example - Grandal is clearly done or a much more part time player given his knee. And the defense clearly sucks and that isnt' on Vaughn/Sheets - that is on the GM for handing the mgr such a flawed defensive roster. Better get all new coaches and retool the roster. We both know it’s not going to happen. It sure as hell sounds like Tony will be back next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: and this ballgame is ovaaaaa Cueto deserved better. again. The offense did not deliver. Usual maladies: no clutch hitting, not scoring a man on 3 rd with less than two outs, refusing to take walks and swinging at pitchers way out of the zone, power outage, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Good things happen when you pull the ball in the air. Hopefully the next Sox GM and hitting coach realizes that. I wonder if they'll go back to the lively ball next season. If you are gonna strike out 14 times like the Sox, you better lift and pull 3-4 homers a night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vote4Pedro Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 They left what 9 men on base tonight? A couple long balls would have gone pretty nicely helping get those guys in……just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, Chisoxfn said: It is the one thing that gives me hope for next year - most are due to bounce back - but the issues can't be ignored cause they are real. For example - Grandal is clearly done or a much more part time player given his knee. And the defense clearly sucks and that isnt' on Vaughn/Sheets - that is on the GM for handing the mgr such a flawed defensive roster. Moncada has a chance to bounce back just cause of his age and his lingering injuries this year. Grandal is cooked unless he goes back on PEDs. That might not be the worst thing since he's on the last year of his deal anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, HOFHurt35 said: Amazing to see so many better bullpens than ours, especially built on the cheap. (Rick Hahn) Does Diekman make more than any of their relievers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Lopez, Lambert. The offense has been a disaster. I eventually thought of Lopez. It's crazy just how bad of results we've gotten from the offense. Moncada - really bad Grandal - cooked Anderson - hurt Eloy - hurt, but decent when healthy Robert - hurt Jose is literally the only core guy who hasn't gotten hurt and is actually playing well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Does Diekman make more than any of their relievers? I'm pretty sure all the guys the Mariners threw out there today make less than Diekman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, chw42 said: Moncada has a chance to bounce back just cause of his age and his lingering injuries this year. Grandal is cooked unless he goes back on PEDs. That might not be the worst thing since he's on the last year of his deal anyhow. I think we're going to find out after the season Grandal is having surgery on like 7 different parts of his body. I haven't given up on him for next year, but for right now, it's obvious he just isn't physically capable of doing more than drawing walks and hitting singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Amazing to see so many better bullpens than ours, especially built on the cheap. (Rick Hahn) It might be those most expensive pen in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, fathom said: Lack of plate discipline has been so damn bad Real bad. Our guys refuse to work counts and take walks. With RISP it gets worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: I eventually thought of Lopez. It's crazy just how bad of results we've gotten from the offense. Moncada - really bad Grandal - cooked Anderson - hurt Eloy - hurt, but decent when healthy Robert - hurt Jose is literally the only core guy who hasn't gotten hurt and is actually playing well. It's not Vaughn's fault that he gives back most of the value from a ~130 wRC+ by having to play the outfield most days. He's given the Sox everything they realistically could have hoped for from him this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: I eventually thought of Lopez. It's crazy just how bad of results we've gotten from the offense. Moncada - really bad Grandal - cooked Anderson - hurt Eloy - hurt, but decent when healthy Robert - hurt Jose is literally the only core guy who hasn't gotten hurt and is actually playing well. He's become a glorified singles hitter that only plays one position. They way this organization is structured you really can't resign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 .500 again This pitching is good enough This offense aint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: It's not Vaughn's fault that he gives back most of the value from a ~130 wRC+ by having to play the outfield most days. He's given the Sox everything they realistically could have hoped for from him this season. Dude gets sore legs. It reminds me of an NL player going to be a DH in the AL and feels they don't have to work hard. He could also work on his speed. Who knows what these guys do in the offseason. Maybe he does that. The way injuries are in baseball, the DH/1B may be the least marketable position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napa_soxfan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2.87 era for Cueto and he’s 7-7. That’s pitiful. Really feel for him and imagine he’s seething at times watching the offense provide little support… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, napa_soxfan said: 2.87 era for Cueto and he’s 7-7. That’s pitiful. Really feel for him and imagine he’s seething at times watching the offense provide little support… I'm sure he'd like to grab a bat and help his own cause....and his career batting avg is .101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) Four back now in the loss column with 26 games left. We are running out of time quickly here. Edited September 7, 2022 by southsideirish71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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