flavum Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Wonder what happened to the two dudes that sat over the first base dugout for years. Relocated? Had enough of this s%*#? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Pasqua Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Yes. I’m sure I can find the 3000 words I wrote in ‘19 about how Hahn was the worst GM in baseball. At least we spend $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Yoan has the 2 best seasons for a Sox 3B of the 21st century but surely they'll find someone better if they trade him for nothing this off-season. Only way they're trading him is if they take another bad contract in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Andrus has been great, but him doing this will make it easy to bring him back and not find a meaningful upgrade (again) at 2B next season. I'm thinking of 3rd so Yoan can be benched when he starts his Randy Moss mode. I also think it's cautionary that Andrus could be one of those lightning in a bottle guys spending too much time with the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Lynn has his bad knee stuff tonight. Let them just absolutely destroy Cueto tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 This season is Ovah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: There's less honesty in that than a political campaign ad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but I think Jerry of all people would know banking playoff revenue, winning the division, etc is *never* a certainty. You know what? I realized we actually have one more bit of relevant info on this. We have heard a bunch this year from our season ticket holders that this is easily the least they’ve gotten from the team. Fewest activities, fewest special events, fewest contacts from ticket reps. In other words, it seems like the Sox cut their marketing budget. For this team, that is telling you that they really believed their ticket packages were already sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Anyone who gave the Sox 2022 playoff money before the deadline which keeps on moving is crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: You know what? I realized we actually have one more bit of relevant info on this. We have heard a bunch this year from our season ticket holders that this is easily the least they’ve gotten from the team. Fewest activities, fewest special events, fewest contacts from ticket reps. In other words, it seems like the Sox cut their marketing budget. For this team, that is telling you that they really believed their ticket packages were already sold. Nah, it’s just staffing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Tuning in for the comeback. 4 games out after tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bmags said: Nah, it’s just staffing issues. I received two or three offers this year for a pregame party, watch batting practice and I only have a 20 game package. Correction I had a 20 game package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: You know what? I realized we actually have one more bit of relevant info on this. We have heard a bunch this year from our season ticket holders that this is easily the least they’ve gotten from the team. Fewest activities, fewest special events, fewest contacts from ticket reps. In other words, it seems like the Sox cut their marketing budget. For this team, that is telling you that they really believed their ticket packages were already sold. They'll blame COVID and "staffing issues" like most large gouging corporations have sold the public over the past three years. The Sox have the internal numbers in terms of the percentage of fans like @Dick Allen who passed on playoff ticket / 2023 deposits yesterday (the deadline). Not sure when the first 2023 ST installment is due, but the Sox will have a good guestimate at this point based on the percentage participation of the 2022 playoff tickets. A substantial number of the most expensive tickets and suites are held directly by team sponsors or other businesses which use them for marketing purposes. Those seats aren't at risk. The bulk of the tickets in the lower priced seats are at risk. The Sox have also historically relied on substantial walkup game day sales. They also killed a good portion of this revenue by banning cash at ticket booths. Many fans do not have credit cards (28%) and/or smartphones (18%). The team also continues to drift out of sight and mind for the growing number of fans who have cut the cord, with their elimination of over the air games on WGN. Jerry and Michael finally took notice after the Bulls ticket sales took a plunge. Perhaps this is the year Jerry takes action, but I have to agree with most reports he is going with Tony one more year (with I believe Kenny and Rick's deals gone) and perhaps making changes after that plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Middle Buffalo said: Tuning in for the comeback. 4 games out after tonight. Hall of Fame List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 And the coffin is being placed in the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Perhaps one day the Sox will have an OFer as good as rookie Kwan (4.7 bWAR). Last White Sox outfielder to have a 4.7 + bWAR? Adam Eaton (6.6) Something to think about next year when fans begin to b**** PECOTA and other projection systems are shortchanging the White Sox, because Robert, Eloy and others are "really 5-6 WAR players". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, bmags said: Man I hate this team. A Rick Hahn Production 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I put this in another thread. Does he mean taking a step back and looking at who they are as a team, front office and ownership or does he mean another rebuild? Because I can’t see a rebuild happening. 4 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: They'll blame COVID and "staffing issues" like most large gouging corporations have sold the public over the past three years. The Sox have the internal numbers in terms of the percentage of fans like @Dick Allen who passed on playoff ticket / 2023 deposits yesterday (the deadline). Not sure when the first 2023 ST installment is due, but the Sox will have a good guestimate at this point based on the percentage participation of the 2022 playoff tickets. A substantial number of the most expensive tickets and suites are held directly by team sponsors or other businesses which use them for marketing purposes. Those seats aren't at risk. The bulk of the tickets in the lower priced seats are at risk. The Sox have also historically relied on substantial walkup game day sales. They also killed a good portion of this revenue by banning cash at ticket booths. Many fans do not have credit cards (28%) and/or smartphones (18%). The team also continues to drift out of sight and mind for the growing number of fans who have cut the cord, with their elimination of over the air games on WGN. Jerry and Michael finally took notice after the Bulls ticket sales took a plunge. Perhaps this is the year Jerry takes action, but I have to agree with most reports he is going with Tony one more year (with I believe Kenny and Rick's deals gone) and perhaps making changes after that plays out. If Tony is back, what happens to this team to try and get them to the next level? Now I’m wondering if Abreu walking, targeting the right free agents for the rotation and outfield and a trade with some pieces on the roster to make changes will be enough. Off topic: Will Benetti be back next year? I think his contract allows him to work for other networks, but I wonder if he likes his Sox gig enough to stay. And I wonder if it ticks Len off at all that he has to do TV when he wants to do radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 59 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Moncada is awesome!!!! The head clown of them all. Just thinking about all that strange he's about to see in the Carribean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Beast said: Off topic: Will Benetti be back next year? I think his contract allows him to work for other networks, but I wonder if he likes his Sox gig enough to stay. And I wonder if it ticks Len off at all that he has to do TV when he wants to do radio. I think Benetti will be back if the white Sox want him to be. Hometown team, helping him make his career start. But the White Sox have let guys like him go before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) BOOING YET? Edited September 22, 2022 by caulfield12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Guardians are running us out of the park tonight. Everybody going from 1 st ro 3 rd. On singles, and stealing bases at will. It has been a humiliation of the Sox tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: BOING YET? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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