hi8is Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Or will he even get a chance to? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I just want him to come and and tell the truth. "Guess what? Yall were right! We fucked up! I don't know how to spend money on players and my boss wouldn't let me choose my manager. We don't know how to keep players healthy, motivated, or accountable. We don't encourage hustling because our players will probably get hurt, even though they are PROFESSIONAL FKING ATHLETES. Go ahead. Rail on us. We deserve it. To all the White Sox fans, I know you don't care that I say this, but I'm sorry. This org needs change from top to bottom. And I will be the first to set the example. I quit." 3 1 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I've never admired Hahn as a GM. I thought he should have been replaced years ago. I don't envy him. He has to make some hard decisions this off season. Moncada and Grandal are making some serious money and both of them are useless. They have to be replaced before the 2023 season. Grandal has one more year on his contract and they might just release him and eat the money. Moncada is owed $48 million over the next 3 seasons. They are going to have a hard time moving him to another team. I would think the only way to move him would be to pickup most of the money owed him. Moncada hasn't hit since 2019 and his defense is starting to go bad. He looked awful defensively in last nights game. I think this off season is going to very interesting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Moncada's defense is not starting to go bad because he had a bad game or two. As you may recall, he caught a foul ball that was a key out and has hit a couple of home runs of late. The Sox were demoralized after that extra inning loss and it carried over to a game against an ace pitcher. Meanwhile, the Sox did not have Luis Robert or TA in the line-up. Lance Lynn looks like he has lost his stuff but kept his penchant for anger at players who make errors while he is on the mound. We came up a few games short. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 We have a 4% chance of winning the wildcard, SO THERES A CHANCE... but im also hoping we lose every game from here on out just to see Hahn squirm. Worst GM in the league 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Park Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Perhaps the Sox should be consulting message boards, on what to do next . what I read here, and elsewhere, makes a lot more sense, than what they actually do . after the fiasco of the last few years, will the front office do what it takes to improve the club, for next year, and beyond . I no longer trust any of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Yeah, Lance. We know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, WBWSF said: Moncada and Grandal are making some serious money and both of them are useless. I'm so mad at myself. I wanted a City Connect jersey so bad, and at the park the only one they had left in my size was Moncada, so I bit the bullet and bought one thinking "maybe he'll redeem himself and hit a game winning homerun in the playoffs." Should have bought a blank one and had it customized...smh Edited September 22, 2022 by ScooterMcGuire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, tray said: Moncada's defense is not starting to go bad because he had a bad game or two. As you may recall, he caught a foul ball that was a key out and has hit a couple of home runs of late. The Sox were demoralized after that extra inning loss and it carried over to a game against an ace pitcher. Meanwhile, the Sox did not have Luis Robert or TA in the line-up. Lance Lynn looks like he has lost his stuff but kept his penchant for anger at players who make errors while he is on the mound. We came up a few games short. And why do you think that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 hours ago, hi8is said: Or will he even get a chance to? You know, I don’t know. Usually Sox fans are kind of blasé, and this FO moves at a glacial pace because Jerry gives out jobs for life at both teams. But I can say I have never in my life seen this fanbase so angry. Jerry has to feed us at least one management body to keep the mob from storming the castle. If I had to guess, LaRussa goes (kicked upstairs?) since when Jerry does make a move, it is on the court or on the field. But Hahn stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ScooterMcGuire said: And why do you think that is? Didn’t want to eat Kuechel’s salary, Tony made mistakes and put the team to sleep. Totally self inflicted and unnecessary. Despite the holes on the team, they could have been right there with a little common sense and reasonable behavior by a top organization Edited September 22, 2022 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I really don't care about anything Hahn will say after the season. I have lost total faith in him and this organization. The rebuild is failing, and it was something they staked their reputation on. I have no expectations at this moment. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 It is like absolutely wild when you think about the only outside hires in this org was Paddy. Getz sort of counts, with his 1 year in an asst role in KC, I guess. Virtually no one has been fired, all promoted into different assistant to the GM roles. Is there another franchise as insular as this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 They have made so many errors, but the big one was LaRussa. Velasquez and Kelly may be some place else if he wasn't hired, and who knows who else. If they needed a fossil, Buck was the hire. He has a 3 or 4 year shelf life, but his teams play to or above their talent level for at least a couple of seasons. And his player evaluation is much better than Tony's. Forget his managerial skills, his evaluation skills are being used like his stint in AZ never happened. And that was many brain cells ago. Shame on the players, but the big shame was hiring Tony. He brought down the entire organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 ??????? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Funny the Royals just ?canned Dayton Moore who built a world series winning team 7 years ago but the Sox still got that leech Kenny Williams after winning one 17 years ago.... Edited September 22, 2022 by JoshPR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lip Man 1 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 The facts are facts regarding Hahn. In the nine previous seasons he's been in charge (even if it is just in name only) the Sox had two winning seasons. Two. With two first round playoff exits. And remember the Sox weren't always 'rebuilding" in those seasons. There were years before the rebuild they were trying to win. The jury is still out if they can even have a winning season this year. I can't think of many other franchises that would allow a guy with that track record to remain in his position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) nm Edited September 22, 2022 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: The facts are facts regarding Hahn. In the nine previous seasons he's been in charge (even if it is just in name only) the Sox had two winning seasons. Two. With two first round playoff exits. And remember the Sox weren't always 'rebuilding" in those seasons. There were years before the rebuild they were trying to win. The jury is still out if they can even have a winning season this year. I can't think of many other franchises that would allow a guy with that track record to remain in his position. I think I can confidently add this as the 5th time most organizations would have fired him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: The facts are facts regarding Hahn. In the nine previous seasons he's been in charge (even if it is just in name only) the Sox had two winning seasons. Two. With two first round playoff exits. And remember the Sox weren't always 'rebuilding" in those seasons. There were years before the rebuild they were trying to win. The jury is still out if they can even have a winning season this year. I can't think of many other franchises that would allow a guy with that track record to remain in his position. Yep. At this point, since we know they won’t come back, I want them to finish under .500 10+ games behind the Guardians. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 The problem JR and KW have with firing RH is they are probably just as responsible. KW needs to pull a Pax and tell JR, it's time for a change, and not just RH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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