GreenSox Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who did they pay 10% above market for? Leury, Joe Kelly, Graveman (all 3 probably above 10%). Perhaps even Hendriks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Leury, Joe Kelly, Graveman (all 3 probably above 10%). Perhaps even Hendriks. To be fair, Leury was more like 50% above market. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Moncada looks super overweight in his recent social media post. I really wish he would take nutrition and fitness seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 18 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: To be fair, Leury was more like 50% above market. Leury's deal definitely felt like the club was looking to spend some good faith money prior to CBA negotiations. Kind of a shame it wasn't in the form of an Abreu extension. Teams seemed eager to put a little jingle in some vet's pockets. A few million burned when billions were at stake seemed more like an investment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, GREEDY said: Leury's deal definitely felt like the club was looking to spend some good faith money prior to CBA negotiations. Kind of a shame it wasn't in the form of an Abreu extension. Teams seemed eager to put a little jingle in some vet's pockets. A few million burned when billions were at stake seemed more like an investment. How is this even something anyone can type? Honestly? The White Sox clearly paid way more in 2019 for Abreu than any other team would have, with a 3 year deal. He was worth it, but they paid a ton for him. This last offseason, they clearly asked him if he was interested in an extension, and he said he wasn't at the time. People are on the record about this including one relevant person named Jose Abreu. Quote “Well, we haven't even started the season,” Abreu said through interpreter Billy Russo during his first Spring Training interview session Wednesday at Camelback Ranch. “Let's see how the season goes, and let's see if we accomplish all the things we want to accomplish. “I'm pretty sure I'm going to consult with my family, see how I'm feeling, see how they're feeling, and we are going to make a decision afterward. Right now, the focus is just to enjoy this season and have fun.” https://www.mlb.com/news/jose-abreu-focused-on-2022-entering-last-year-of-contract What should they have done, kidnap his family and threaten to harm them if he didn't sign on for another year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: How is this even something anyone can type? Honestly? The White Sox clearly paid way more in 2019 for Abreu than any other team would have, with a 3 year deal. He was worth it, but they paid a ton for him. This last offseason, they clearly asked him if he was interested in an extension, and he said he wasn't at the time. People are on the record about this including one relevant person named Jose Abreu. https://www.mlb.com/news/jose-abreu-focused-on-2022-entering-last-year-of-contract What should they have done, kidnap his family and threaten to harm them if he didn't sign on for another year? 50% of your posts are you trying to dunk on someone when you don't understand their original post. I'm saying that in the event the Sox were wasting money in good faith prior to the lockout, I wish they would have tried to give it to Abreu. Not exactly a controversial take. Is it possible he didn't want to sign an extension? Yes. Obviously. I also agree Abreu was overpaid in '19. I was strongly against that signing. Turns out I was very wrong but this was definitely not a pro-Abreu post. It was a "if we were going to burn money on a veteran, I wouldn't have chosen Leury". 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/34897273/mlb-playoffs-how-phillies-constructed-world-series-roster Spend spend spend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Benintendi spent 1.5 years with Grifol. Wonder if that'll have any effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) From yesterday. Don’t know if this was posted anywhere. Edited November 2, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: From yesterday. Don’t know if this was posted anywhere. That one just strikes me as speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I’m so unmotivated to make my spreadsheet this year. I also feel like the salary estimates will be much harder this offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Some Benintendi talk happening in the manager thread right now, so I figured we should bring it over here. How would everyone feel if he was our outfield acquisition this offseason? I would obviously prefer Nimmo, but he seems more of a long shot. Given our recent history of doing nothing, I think I would be satisfied with Benintendi. Would you guys prefer Benintendi or Conforto, if you had a choice between those two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Some Benintendi talk happening in the manager thread right now, so I figured we should bring it over here. How would everyone feel if he was our outfield acquisition this offseason? I would obviously prefer Nimmo, but he seems more of a long shot. Given our recent history of doing nothing, I think I would be satisfied with Benintendi. Would you guys prefer Benintendi or Conforto, if you had a choice between those two? I'd prefer Conforto on a rebound deal. Benintendi might be cheaper and wouldn't be a bad get, but he's really not a RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Some Benintendi talk happening in the manager thread right now, so I figured we should bring it over here. How would everyone feel if he was our outfield acquisition this offseason? I would obviously prefer Nimmo, but he seems more of a long shot. Given our recent history of doing nothing, I think I would be satisfied with Benintendi. Would you guys prefer Benintendi or Conforto, if you had a choice between those two? Conforto. If we're adding to the outfield, we need a guy that can go to right field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Has anyone seen a contract projection for Benintendi? Or for that matter for Conforto? I haven't even seen a confirmed statement that "yes Michael Conforto will play baseball again", let alone that he has an arm capable of throwing from RF after that shoulder injury. I am now thinking that OF prices may jump a lot more than we think this year, given the teams that need outfield help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, SoxBlanco said: Some Benintendi talk happening in the manager thread right now, so I figured we should bring it over here. How would everyone feel if he was our outfield acquisition this offseason? I would obviously prefer Nimmo, but he seems more of a long shot. Given our recent history of doing nothing, I think I would be satisfied with Benintendi. Would you guys prefer Benintendi or Conforto, if you had a choice between those two? Conforto by quite a bit. Far far higher ceiling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Has anyone seen a contract projection for Benintendi? Or for that matter for Conforto? I haven't even seen a confirmed statement that "yes Michael Conforto will play baseball again", let alone that he has an arm capable of throwing from RF after that shoulder injury. I am now thinking that OF prices may jump a lot more than we think this year, given the teams that need outfield help. One of the guys in an MLBTR chat predicted 4/$54 or 56 mill for Benintendi. Can't remember the exact amount but also not worth much as it's just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 9:50 AM, NCsoxfan said: Moncada looks super overweight in his recent social media post. I really wish he would take nutrition and fitness seriously. Can he be optioned to the minors? Maybe that would change his attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Won’t be surprised by Benitendi one bit since they’ve been on that dudes jock since the draft. Add that with Grifol and I’d say it’s as likely as my spelling is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, Saufley said: Can he be optioned to the minors? Maybe that would change his attitude. My brother has a coworker who used to "date" Moncada, and Moncada is apparently almost always drunk at home and incredibly lazy (no the shocking part) according to her.. It just seems like he doesn't care.. cashing in the checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I look at Nimmo and I see that gaudy 5.4 WAR, but then the raw numbers suggest he's basically an OBP guy. $25 is quite the price for an OBP type hitter. Now, I realize that OBP guys are in short supply (nonexistent) on the South Side, so maybe we should just pay-up for one. But we're also a place where OBP goes to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, GreenSox said: I look at Nimmo and I see that gaudy 5.4 WAR, but then the raw numbers suggest he's basically an OBP guy. $25 is quite the price for an OBP type hitter. Now, I realize that OBP guys are in short supply (nonexistent) on the South Side, so maybe we should just pay-up for one. But we're also a place where OBP goes to die. If the White Sox had the funds available I would totally get that price, we need that production desperately. But yeah, we're in such obviously tight straits that it's hard to see it being worth it to outbid the Yankees, Dodgers, Giants, Mets for that guy, not when we also need pitching and have so little depth around the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Conforto by quite a bit. Far far higher ceiling Why not both?(if money is no object) they need more left handed bats and Pollock is the short side of a platoon these days. Pollock can spell both players in bad matchups. Would also give them the luxury of letting Colas prove he's absolutely ready. Colas can also play all 3 OF positions. Edited November 3, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Why not both?(if money is no object) they need more left handed bats and Pollock is the short side of a platoon these days. Pollock can spell both players in bad matchups. Would also give them the luxury of letting Colas prove he's absolutely ready. Colas can also play all 3 OF positions. Money is clearly going to be an object for this team. What they are able to get in under their limit I don't know, but they have only $20 million or so beneath last year's total payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Money is clearly going to be an object for this team. What they are able to get in under their limit I don't know, but they have only $20 million or so beneath last year's total payroll. I don't think there's a realistic 2B option. They need a SP though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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