Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Nightengale said Tony is retiring tomorrow. Finally. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) The individuals are presented in alphabetical order. Brad Ausmus, Athletics bench coach. ... Joe Espada, Astros bench coach. ... Matt Quatraro, Rays bench coach. ... Mike Scioscia, Team USA manager. ... Rob Thomson, Phillies interim manager. ... Dusty Wathan, Phillies third base coach. Son of John. Top candidates when they were pushing Girardi out in Philly...would personally prefer Bochy to Scioscia/Maddon. Have already talked about Harris Beltran Alomar Jr. Fwiw, Bob Melvin has been a steadying presence in SD, quite similar to Bruce B. Francona or Micah Hyde are manager of the year in the AL, Mariners #3. Look to Guardians, Rays, Brewers staffs. Edited October 2, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 1:04 PM, Dick Allen said: Nightengale said Tony is retiring tomorrow. Finally. Expand And thank god it is Jerry's preferred source, so it is safe to believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 1:14 PM, caulfield12 said: The individuals are presented in alphabetical order. Brad Ausmus, Athletics bench coach. ... Joe Espada, Astros bench coach. ... Matt Quatraro, Rays bench coach. ... Mike Scioscia, Team USA manager. ... Rob Thomson, Phillies interim manager. ... Dusty Wathan, Phillies third base coach. Son of John. Top candidates when they were pushing Girardi out in Philly...would personally prefer Bochy to Scioscia/Maddon. Have already talked about Harris Beltran Alomar Jr. Fwiw, Bob Melvin has been a steadying presence in SD, quite similar to Bruce B. Francona or Micah Hyde are manager of the year in the AL, Mariners #3. Look to Guardians, Rays, Brewers staffs. Expand Micah Hyde, Go Hawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I could care less who our manager is to be honest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 1:35 PM, bmags said: I could care less who our manager is to be honest. Expand After this last experience, I do think managers matter. I don’t like Tony. Couldn’t stand him his first tour with the team. The DUI to me was just another opportunity for an out the Sox had realizing this idea was bad. Just listen to Tony when he was hired and watch an old clip when he was with the Cardinals, A’s and White Sox in the 80s. It’s night and day. These players had basically the equivalent of a substitute teacher, like when we all were kids, as a full time manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I would take a look at Ron Washington. He had a rough ending in Texas but is beloved in Atlanta. He us a defense guru as well. We know this team needs that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 While I will not doubt Tony has a pacemaker, and it may have had some issues, I do think there is more to this story than that. There are hundreds of thousands of people with pacemakers. They aren’t told to immediately quit their job, but it’s still OK to sort of do your job, like Tony was watching games and consulting with Cairo. But I will take it. 2 years probably wasted. At least one for sure. Get someone who actually doesn’t think results are too easy. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 9/27/2022 at 9:31 PM, SpringfieldFan said: I am no TLR fan, but wish him comfort and better health. In any case TLR was never the root problem. He was the consequence. Expand He was definitely one of the root problems. I still can’t understand how astonishingly bad his in-game decisions were. I don’t wish him ill health, either, but good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 2:12 PM, Dick Allen said: While I will not doubt Tony has a pacemaker, and it may have had some issues, I do think there is more to this story than that. There are hundreds of thousands of people with pacemakers. They aren’t told to immediately quit their job, but it’s still OK to sort of do your job, like Tony was watching games and consulting with Cairo. But I will take it. 2 years probably wasted. At least one for sure. Get someone who actually doesn’t think results are too easy. Expand These last two years will make a great book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Holy s%*# this is tremendous news! The reign of terror is finally over!! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 2:26 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Holy s%*# this is tremendous news! The reign of terror is finally over!! Expand Yeah, but only if they actually hire a competent replacement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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South Side Hit Men Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) On 10/2/2022 at 1:35 PM, southsider2k5 said: Expand Read the fucking fine print in Bob’s article: Quote La Russa listened, and will walk away. He likely will stay in the White Sox organization as a special assistant, but those long, demanding and stressful days are over. Expand Fucking shitshow. Edited October 2, 2022 by South Side Hit Men 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 2:31 PM, Leonard Zelig said: Yeah, but only if they actually hire a competent replacement. Expand I’m savouring the endorphin rush and ignoring the perils that might be around the corner. They can’t f*** up a hire as bad again, right? Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hang Wiffem Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Good thing it's a much less attractive job now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 1:35 PM, bmags said: I could care less who our manager is to be honest. Expand While it obviously makes a difference (as we clearly saw with this incredible failure) the bigger point is accurate. None of this matters with the FO in place. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 2:45 PM, Tony said: While it obviously makes a difference (as we clearly saw with this incredible failure) the bigger point is accurate. None of this matters with the FO in place. Expand They are going to hire an analytics affluent manager? Cool. Whose analytics? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuban_sammiches Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 1:59 PM, HoosierSox said: I would take a look at Ron Washington. He had a rough ending in Texas but is beloved in Atlanta. He us a defense guru as well. We know this team needs that. Expand Jesus, Ron Washington is 70 and hasn't managed in 8 years. Let's try for something better than that. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 2:55 PM, cuban_sammiches said: Jesus, Ron Washington is 70 and hasn't managed in 8 years. Let's try for something better than that. Expand If he wants a job fixing the defense, welcome aboard. But please no more managers past retirement age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 2:55 PM, cuban_sammiches said: Jesus, Ron Washington is 70 and hasn't managed in 8 years. Let's try for something better than that. Expand I get the sentiment but let’s not act like he’s been out like TLR. He’s been going around the league turning around team defenses. He’s at least shown he’s the best in the game still as a defensive skills teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 This is all great but I'm already terrified about what comes next. How worried should we be about Willie Harris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Ok Tony is gone that’s only a part of this management/team issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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