SCCWS Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, pcq said: I don't see Hahn leaving. Just not likely. I agree, although he should. Maybe JR puts him in another job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Just now, SCCWS said: I agree, although he should. Maybe JR puts him in another job. Naw, he does too great of a job. He’s been telling JR that for 10 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, maloney.adam said: The whole coaching staff is most likely be gone including Katz. Usually the new manager wants his own personnel. If Katz is gone Gio will probably be traded as well. I’d be stunned if Ethan Katz isn’t the pitching coach in 2023. That wasn’t a La Russa hire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I’d be stunned if Ethan Katz isn’t the pitching coach in 2023. That wasn’t a La Russa hire. He’s the one guy I’m interested in keeping. Can the rest of the staff. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I’d be stunned if Ethan Katz isn’t the pitching coach in 2023. That wasn’t a La Russa hire. If there’s one thing that is very White Sox, it would be telling their new coach that no, he doesn’t have the authority to hire his own staff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) Well Cairo will most likely not be managing the Sox next year. Lol Edited September 28, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Count me as thrilled that Tony is completely out, and not being kicked upstairs. Remove the tumor, let the body heal. The cancer is still VERY MUCH THERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Well one thing is for certain, Cairo will most likely not be managing the Sox next year. Lol No it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tony said: No it isn't. Hate to break this to you but no Cairo isn’t managing this team next year sorry. Edited September 28, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuban_sammiches Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tony said: No it isn't. Cairo lost the job when he called Jimmy Lambert to pitch and afterwards admitted he screwed up and wasn't prepared to manage the game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I’d be stunned if Ethan Katz isn’t the pitching coach in 2023. That wasn’t a La Russa hire. Miguel Cairo, Frank Menechino, Howie Clark, Darryl Boston, Joe McEwing, Jerry Narron, Curt Hasler and Shelley Duncan. What an awesome coaching staff that was. Good riddance! Edited September 28, 2022 by maloney.adam 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Hate to break this to you but no Cairo isn’t managing this team next year sorry. Yeah, keep giving the White Sox the benefit of the doubt. See how it works out for you. I also didn't say it was happening. You claimed it was "almost certain" until you edited your post. That's not true, and that's the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 If Hahn remains and the Sox become a contender, Tony's plaque at the HoF becomes a target at the batting cages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Sox fans deserve better. Clean the house and hopefully a real GM can access this team, and hire a manager of his choosing. That micromanaging bullshit from Jerry is the cause of this s%*#. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 hours ago, maloney.adam said: The whole coaching staff is most likely be gone including Katz. Usually the new manager wants his own personnel. If Katz is gone Gio will probably be traded as well. Gio can go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, JoeC said: I laughed audibly. I expect an apology for my wife yelling at me for waking her up. This. If the manager and GM aren't aligned on roster construction and overall strategy, then I feel like it's just another case study in inefficient organizational management. Whoever is actually in charge needs to have his / her / their philosophy congruent with what is being taught all the way down the organization. Furthermore, what is being taught / preached down the organization needs to be congruent with what it takes to be successful as a baseball team (not this "you worked for 15 years as a personal janitor to the assistant to the traveling secretary, so you're being rewarded with a position of baseball significance" thing that JR does). Naturally, the coaching staff needs to buy into whatever the GM has in mind, which should naturally be congruent with what the manager's hiring and teaching would also align. If the manager and GM aren’t aligned on things philosophically, then they shouldn’t hire that person to be the manager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 hours ago, maloney.adam said: The whole coaching staff is most likely be gone including Katz. Usually the new manager wants his own personnel. If Katz is gone Gio will probably be traded as well. Done and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, maloney.adam said: Last I checked June is Pride Month, though that may be yet another sore subject for Rick Hahn and the Chicago White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 For the love of god please go outside the organization. Find as many Astros, Dodgers, Rays, etc. guys as possible. This whole organization needs to change its ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, pettie4sox said: Sox fans deserve better. Clean the house and hopefully a real GM can access this team, and hire a manager of his choosing. That micromanaging bullshit from Jerry is the cause of this s%*#. It's been going on for years in different areas, won't change now I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Thought this deserved its own thread Best news of the month so far. Wish him well in his retirement in Arizona or Tampa, away from the Southside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 4 hours ago, cuban_sammiches said: Cairo lost the job when he called Jimmy Lambert to pitch and afterwards admitted he screwed up and wasn't prepared to manage the game. Cairo lost me with that move, a big unforced error to bring a rookie to protect a 3-1 lead-in the 7th.of the most important game of the year. This game closed the curtains on the Sox season. I was in favor of retaining Cairo before this game, but not anymore after the 7 losses that followed. Send Cairo back to Egypt for all I care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Tony said: The cancer is still VERY MUCH THERE The tumor took too long to be removed and some metastasis occurred. A shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 hours ago, The Beast said: Realistically, Williams and Hahn aren’t going anywhere. This is the White Sox and Jerry Reinsdorf we are talking about. However, if Bernstein’s report is indeed true, then I agree with Matt Spiegel’s assessment, they need to bring someone from outside the organization to manage the team and have the ability to pick their own coaching staff without holdovers. Yes, even Katz. Now I’m wondering who that is. I don’t know either, but can’t be worse than TLR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 It wouldn't shock me if Katz is gone, if for no other reason than a 100% culture change. This team seriously needs a heart transplant, and the easiest place to start is a 100% turnover in the coaching staff. Katz did some good things, but there were also some disappointments in the staff. I'm fine whichever way that goes. And for Giolito - seriously, who cares if he is traded? He is a bottom of rotation guy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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