Jack Parkman Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Kopech will be 27 next April. Time to unleash him and if he can't stay healthy, so be it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Kopech will be 27 next April. Time to unleash him and if he can't stay healthy, so be it. Not sure if I agree with the full sentiment, but yeah - at this point I'd say his arm is basically back to being "built up" (if it ever actually was). He's at basically 120 innings for the year. Getting him to the 160 ~ 180 range next year basically just involves keeping him healthy, given how short starters go nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So… Davis Martin confirmed to break camp with the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: So we're starting this already......before even moves have been made. 2023 is doomed before it even has started #jadedsoxfan Edited November 17, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) I would consider trading Liam Hendriks and try Kopech at Closer if he would go along with such a plan. Kopech might actually like that role and it would certainly add to his longevity in the game. Leg obviously has to heal after surgery before any plan to rehab is formulated. Edited November 18, 2022 by tray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, tray said: I would consider trading Kimbrell and try Kopech at Closer if he would go along with such a plan. Kopech might actually like that role and it would certainly add to his longevity in the game. Leg obviously has to heal after surgery before any plan to rehab is formulated. Give it one more year. Once he's healthy, unleash him and if he breaks, then he's a reliever in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Give it one more year. Once he's healthy, unleash him and if he breaks, then he's a reliever in 2024. He is never healthy. At some you can't keep telling yourself guys will stay healthy. Before Eloy lost huge parts of 2021 and 2022 he missed the playoffs in 2020. You are either injury prone or you ae not and the White Sox are full of injury prone guys. Other than Robert these become issues at the MLB level. Robert has always been hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: He is never healthy. At some you can't keep telling yourself guys will stay healthy. Before Eloy lost huge parts of 2021 and 2022 he missed the playoffs in 2020. You are either injury prone or you ae not and the White Sox are full of injury prone guys. Other than Robert these become issues at the MLB level. Robert has always been hurt. If you truly believe that, then you support another full rebuild, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Please rename this thread. I damn near had a heart attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Remember when we were all celebrating the haul Hahn got for Sale? Of the only two players in that trade that made it to the majors, one doesnt want to play and the other never can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: The first thought that went through my mind was this reminded me of the type of comments surrounding Carlos Rodon's injury with his shoulder a few years ago. Sox kept saying he was on-track, they were being cautious...long story short, if I remember right he missed a lot of time than had additional surgery. Edited November 18, 2022 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 7 hours ago, tray said: I would consider trading Liam Hendriks and try Kopech at Closer if he would go along with such a plan. Kopech might actually like that role and it would certainly add to his longevity in the game. Leg obviously has to heal after surgery before any plan to rehab is formulated. Kopech has the upside of one of the best SP in the game. He has only 3 years of control left because Sox horribly mishandled him. You gotta keep him as as a SP for now. Hard pass on moving him to the pen and creating another gaping hole in the rotation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Kopech has the upside of one of the best SP in the game. He has only 3 years of control left because Sox horribly mishandled him. You gotta keep him as as a SP for now. Hard pass on moving him to the pen and creating another gaping hole in the rotation. Yeah, moving Kopech to the bullpen would be the definition of insanity. He is going to have a Cease like breakout at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, reiks12 said: Remember when we were all celebrating the haul Hahn got for Sale? Of the only two players in that trade that made it to the majors, one doesnt want to play and the other never can. That trade has gone south for both teams over the last few years. Sale wasn't even a major contributor to the Sawx 2018 championship, as he was injured most of the season and only pitched a few times out of the bullpen during the playoffs. Edited November 18, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 14 hours ago, Harry Chappas said: He is never healthy. At some you can't keep telling yourself guys will stay healthy. Before Eloy lost huge parts of 2021 and 2022 he missed the playoffs in 2020. You are either injury prone or you ae not and the White Sox are full of injury prone guys. Other than Robert these become issues at the MLB level. Robert has always been hurt. I feel like it’s a little more nuanced than you either are or aren’t injury prone. Take someone like Aaron Judge. 2017: Played in 96% of his team’s games 2018: 70% 2019: 63% 2020: 47% 2021: 91% 2022: 97% Is he injury prone or not? I’m not saying some guys aren’t more of a risk than others, but to definitively decide now that he’ll never stay healthy seems shortsighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: That trade has gone south for both teams over the last few years. Sale wasn't even a major contributor to the Sawx 2018 championship, as he was injured most of the season and only pitched a few times out of the bullpen during the playoffs. Sale was a 6.5 rWAR pitcher in 2018 and finished 4th in the Cy Young voting. 2.11 ERA in a 150 inning season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Sale was a 6.5 rWAR pitcher in 2018 and finished 4th in the Cy Young voting. 2.11 ERA in a 150 inning season. He was great until his arm fell off in August. They didn't have him when they needed him the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: He was great until his arm fell off in August. They didn't have him when they needed him the most. He pitched 5 times in the 2018 playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 42 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: He pitched 5 times in the 2018 playoffs. He did, out of the bullpen. And I think he closed the clincher. They didn't trade for him to be a closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: He did, out of the bullpen. And I think he closed the clincher. They didn't trade for him to be a closer. Your argument in invalid. He was a Cy young candidate even missing some time that season and helped them win the World Series in the playoffs, granted out of the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: He was great until his arm fell off in August. They didn't have him when they needed him the most. To some degree, they won so many games that they did have him when they did most of their important work, at least in the regular season. They had a 10 game lead after Sale's last start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) On 11/17/2022 at 4:13 PM, southsider2k5 said: Why wait so long after the season ended, I've had 2 knee surgeries and sometimes things take longer than expected, season ended 6 weeks ago, that is 6 weeks more to get the knee in shape. Edited November 18, 2022 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Why wait so long after the season ended, I've had 2 knee surgeries and sometimes things take longer than expected, season ended 6 weeks ago, that is 6 weeks more to get the knee in shape. This thread was posted on October first and they provided an update yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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