bmags Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I just still don’t get why you don’t stretch and waive lonzo if you are trying to compete with this crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, bmags said: I just still don’t get why you don’t stretch and waive lonzo if you are trying to compete with this crew The only insane logic I can think of is they think he'll be back — fully healthy — in the '24-'25 season and will try to extend him on a cheap deal in return for their loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Someone said it earlier but this team desperately needs shooters and a PG. I am not sure how we make it happen but I feel like it has been a long time since we had a knock down 3 point shooter as a role guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 6 hours ago, bmags said: I just still don’t get why you don’t stretch and waive lonzo if you are trying to compete with this crew Does it do anything to the cap situation? If not you might as well just hope he comes back the following year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 If Vuc expects to get more touches on offense this team is worse off than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 10 hours ago, Tnetennba said: If Vuc expects to get more touches on offense this team is worse off than I thought. Or it means one of the mid 3 is getting traded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, chw42 said: Or it means one of the mid 3 is getting traded Trading Zach or Demar to keep and give Vuc a bigger role isn’t exactly an improvement IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Coby White is coming back on a 3 year deal at $10 mil a year, apparently. Bulls are showing interest in trading for Monte Morris, as I alluded to before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Overpriced mediocrity, thy name is the Chicago Bulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Overpriced mediocrity, thy name is the Chicago Bulls. I would have laughed at that contract a year ago, but Coby actually improved his whole game last year. At only 23, it would have sucked to let him go and see him flourish elsewhere (Lauri cough). The contract itself isn't bad. Considering Bruce Brown just got 2 and $45 million, this is actually cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 So it looks like they just used half the MLE on Jevon Carter. He's more or less PatBev's replacement. I also doubt Ayo is coming back unless he's on a dirt-cheap deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Mediocre is what they will be. Carter isn’t horrible as an isolated move though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Chisoxfn said: Mediocre is what they will be. Carter isn’t horrible as an isolated move though. They hard-capped themselves since Jevon Carter's deal is part of the non tax-payer MLE. So they can only spend $9 million more on any non vet-min signings or they would go over the tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, chw42 said: I would have laughed at that contract a year ago, but Coby actually improved his whole game last year. At only 23, it would have sucked to let him go and see him flourish elsewhere (Lauri cough). The contract itself isn't bad. Considering Bruce Brown just got 2 and $45 million, this is actually cheap. The contract itself is fine. Running it back with basically the same roster though is thoroughly uninspired. The org is stuck in neutral and this is another signing that doesn’t move the needle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Poetl got the same deal as Vooch, but one more year. I think fit-wise, Poeltl might actually fit this current Bulls roster better than Vooch. Poeltl gives you better rim protection and rebounding at the expense of floor spacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: The contract itself is fine. Running it back with basically the same roster though is thoroughly uninspired. The org is stuck in neutral and this is another signing that doesn’t move the needle. They're not even going into the tax. It's the same old same old under a Reinsdorf org. Unless there's some miracle trade they can pull off, it's just gonna be another play-in tournament next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, chw42 said: They hard-capped themselves since Jevon Carter's deal is part of the non tax-payer MLE. So they can only spend $9 million more on any non vet-min signings or they would go over the tax. Does that count the 10M they might get for ball. I think it does - which means we are getting nothing from him and this are showing how bad the front office is. My tune would change if we ultimately decided to retool and make a major trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, Chisoxfn said: Does that count the 10M they might get for ball. I think it does - which means we are getting nothing from him and this are showing how bad the front office is. My tune would change if we ultimately decided to retool and make a major trade. They need to get the DPE approved, which I don't know if they have or not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, chw42 said: They're not even going into the tax. It's the same old same old under a Reinsdorf org. Unless there's some miracle trade they can pull off, it's just gonna be another play-in tournament next year. When playoff revenue >> making a legit run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, chw42 said: They're not even going into the tax. It's the same old same old under a Reinsdorf org. Unless there's some miracle trade they can pull off, it's just gonna be another play-in tournament next year. Everyone should stop spending time and money on the Bulls. Going nowhere under this ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I remember watch a game where Carter absolutely went on an insane heater and was wondering who tf he was. I like the signing a lot actually. Looking at the Bucks lineups here, Carter was a part of the Bucks best starting 5 in terms of +/-. Carter was also part of the Bucks second most used line up in terms of minutes played.....That's on the #1 team in the east. Lots of Bucks fans think he's a starting quality PG. Oh and he's a DAWG. From a defensive standpoint he's probably right up there with Lonzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Dude also shot 42% from 3....Something everyone is clamoring for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Tnetennba said: The contract itself is fine. Running it back with basically the same roster though is thoroughly uninspired. The org is stuck in neutral and this is another signing that doesn’t move the needle. It's an upgrade over Pat Bev and they weren't God awful with him. Seriously. I think outside of adding a star, some bull fans aren't gonna be happy. Everyone screams about them needing more 3 point shooting and then scoff at them adding a guy who finished 10th in 3P%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 VanVleet just got more AAV than LaVine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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