Chicago White Sox Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said: What happened with the Malooney guy? He completely disappeared from here the moment FootlongComiskeyDog started moving on up in the fake insider world. He also was notorious for sharing that specific Twitter user’s tweets. It seems pretty apparent to me they are one and the same. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 44 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: He completely disappeared from here the moment FootlongComiskeyDog started moving on up in the fake insider world. He also was notorious for sharing that specific Twitter user’s tweets. It seems pretty apparent to me they are one and the same. Yeah he regularly shared the foodie’s tweets, and would always get super defensive when it was hinted that he was behind the accounts. Maybe he got smart and disappeared before getting outed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Yeah a Leury and Grandal for McCann and Escobar works EXACTLY for the trade analyzer (-18.90 value). Off the top of my head, I believe the money is about equal. This would be a deal I would do IF they absolutely believed Grandal was toast catching. Escobar is a clear upgrade at 2B/UTL who will provide LH pop and McCann can at least catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Yeah a Leury and Grandal for McCann and Escobar works EXACTLY for the trade analyzer (-18.90 value). Off the top of my head, I believe the money is about equal. This would be a deal I would do IF they absolutely believed Grandal was toast catching. Escobar is a clear upgrade at 2B/UTL who will provide LH pop and McCann can at least catch. The Mets would take on about $3 million this year. The White Sox would be taking on about $7 million for next year (club option on Escobar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Yeah a Leury and Grandal for McCann and Escobar works EXACTLY for the trade analyzer (-18.90 value). Off the top of my head, I believe the money is about equal. This would be a deal I would do IF they absolutely believed Grandal was toast catching. Escobar is a clear upgrade at 2B/UTL who will provide LH pop and McCann can at least catch. What does this solve for the Mets, exactly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 9 hours ago, chw42 said: Yikes that McCann contract is awful the last 2 years. $12 million a year for him is just awful. Talk about a guy the Sox walked away from at the absolute perfect time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, southsider2k5 said: Talk about a guy the Sox walked away from at the absolute perfect time. 75% of this board was in shambles when he left. Dude's always been a meh player. Was solid for the Sox, but yeah....definitely would have been an awful deal to beat the one the Mets gave him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Yeah a Leury and Grandal for McCann and Escobar works EXACTLY for the trade analyzer (-18.90 value). Off the top of my head, I believe the money is about equal. This would be a deal I would do IF they absolutely believed Grandal was toast catching. Escobar is a clear upgrade at 2B/UTL who will provide LH pop and McCann can at least catch. Yeah I would definitely do that deal as well if money was equal. Also gives them a bit more time to find a long term catcher. Edited December 19, 2022 by SoCalChiSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: What does this solve for the Mets, exactly? I think we would have to throw in Kelly in order for them to get something out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, SoCalChiSox said: I think we would have to throw in Kelly in order for them to get something out of it Yeah, I would think the general idea is 1) they have too many catchers; and 2) they would like to dump some money. Yaz + Leury for McCann + Escobar does neither. They get a more expensive catcher, and a far worse infielder. It doesn't solve either of their needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Is this Mets rumor McCann/Escobar legit or are we just searching and hoping for a “fit” in a trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: What does this solve for the Mets, exactly? Absolutely nothing lol. I guess they free up a total of 4 million over the two years. Maybe they like that Leury could play OF too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, Springfield Soxfan said: Is this Mets rumor McCann/Escobar legit or are we just searching and hoping for a “fit” in a trade? Something with a relief pitcher makes the most sense for NYM, but it sure sounds make up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 9 hours ago, ShoeLessRob said: “Hey we heard you love shitty players like Leury Garcia, can we offer you (enter shitty player with band contract)?” That’s the only time Leurys name is being brought up in “trade” talks I think I prefer to have different shitty players instead of Leury.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Springfield Soxfan said: Is this Mets rumor McCann/Escobar legit or are we just searching and hoping for a “fit” in a trade? Groping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Yeah, I would think the general idea is 1) they have too many catchers; and 2) they would like to dump some money. Yaz + Leury for McCann + Escobar does neither. They get a more expensive catcher, and a far worse infielder. It doesn't solve either of their needs. And it opens up a hole at 3B for the Mets. Unless they wanted to use Guillorme or Baty there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Yeah, I would think the general idea is 1) they have too many catchers; and 2) they would like to dump some money. Yaz + Leury for McCann + Escobar does neither. They get a more expensive catcher, and a far worse infielder. It doesn't solve either of their needs. For our purposes, taking on McCann without dealing Yaz in it also doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Yeah a Leury and Grandal for McCann and Escobar works EXACTLY for the trade analyzer (-18.90 value). Off the top of my head, I believe the money is about equal. This would be a deal I would do IF they absolutely believed Grandal was toast catching. Escobar is a clear upgrade at 2B/UTL who will provide LH pop and McCann can at least catch. I would even do Kelly if the Mets threw in 5/6 mil to make McCann’s contract more palatable next year. Kelly could at least be useful for the Mets, no one wants Leury on their 26 man roster. Paying McCann $12M next year should be a non-starter for any deal though. Mets #2 prospect is a 23 year old 3B Brett Batty that mashed in AA/AAA and got some time in the majors last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if they want him playing sooner rather than later and makes losing Escobar easier. And Grandal isn’t a bad DH insurance for them incase Vogelbach forgets how to hit again. Mets would be adding more $ to their payroll tho and the cost of paying luxury tax for Grandal/Kelly might not be worth it for minimal (if any) upgrades. Sox would save enough $ to be able to replace Kelly with another MRP tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: For our purposes, taking on McCann without dealing Yaz in it also doesn't make sense. Depending on how much salary you clear (dealing Garcia or Kelly for example) and/or take cash back to even it out, he's a guy who could catch a decent amount. Grandal could still be the starter but you can give him more rest. Plus Grandal can see at bats at DH and 1B every now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 don't we still have a decent amount of space on the 40 man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Depending on how much salary you clear (dealing Garcia or Kelly for example) and/or take cash back to even it out, he's a guy who could catch a decent amount. Grandal could still be the starter but you can give him more rest. Plus Grandal can see at bats at DH and 1B every now and then. Grandal should never see at bats at either of those positions unless he returns to 2021 form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: For our purposes, taking on McCann without dealing Yaz in it also doesn't make sense. If you can make it an even $ swap, taking McCann back without moving Yaz and then trading Seby for some rotation depth makes some sense. Got to have that trade lined up tho; Seby should have some value after his 2022, and I don't want to just DFA him. But yeah, I don't even know why I am going down this McCann rabbit hole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Grandal should never see at bats at either of those positions unless he returns to 2021 form. Agreed, but on that point, if he's not returned to form then it is good to have McCann (if he's healthy). Edited December 19, 2022 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 After another glace at Adam Duvall, I am all aboard that train as our OF 4. Shed some money Jerry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: don't we still have a decent amount of space on the 40 man? I count 38 currently (37 + Benintendi who isn't official yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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