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26 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Drury would have been an awesome fit here.  Oh well.

I don't think it'll happen, but I'd love to see the Sox pick up Profar. He checks a ton of the same boxes.

Profar would be a nice addition, but I think he ends up getting more than Drury. He also doesn't really play 2B anymore. 

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Just now, maxjusttyped said:

Those numbers look like a pretty huge outlier for the rest of his career. Maybe he lost so much athleticism he can't play the infield anymore, but I doubt it.

That's by far the largest sample in any season he's had at 2B. 

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1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

UZR and OAA both had him ranging between average & slightly below average that year which checks out with the rest of his career. I just think that's putting too much weight on 1 season of DRS numbers.

He had negative OAA numbers in very small samples. If you get him to play 2B in a more or less full-time role, my bet is that he's gonna be at least a -5 run defender there. 

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3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

I was just talking to a friend of mine about Javy Vazquez and Alex Rios. 

Sox Pitchers with 12 + bWAR over three consecutive Sox seasons and 12 + career Sox bWAR:

(Best three year stretch listed if player has multiple three year periods):

Twenty Seven White Sox Pitchers

Comiskey Park II (8 over 32 seasons)

  • 18.3 Chris Sale (2012-2014)
  • 16.7 John Danks (2008-2010)
  • 15.8 Mark Buehrle (2007-2009)
  • 14.0 Jack McDowell (1991-1993)
  • 13.2 Alex Fernandez (1994-1996)
  • 12.6 Jose Quintana (2014-2016)
  • 12.2 Jon Garland (2005-2007)
  • 12.1 Javier Vazquez (2006-2008)

Comiskey Park (17 over 81 seasons)

  • 31.7 Ed Walsh (1910-1912)
  • 30.0 Wilbur Wood (1971-1973)
  • 26.7 Red Faber (1920-1922)
  • 25.0 Eddie Cicotte (1917-1919)
  • 19.2 Tommy Thomas (1927-1929)
  • 18.3 Ted Lyons (1925-1927)
  • 18.2 Billy Pierce (1951-1953)
  • 16.6 Thornton Lee (1939-1941)
  • 16.3 Tommy John (1968-1970)
  • 15.8 Johnny Rigney (1938-1940)
  • 15.3 Jim Katt (1973-1975)
  • 14.9 Jim Scott (1913-1915)
  • 13.4 Joe Horlen (1967-1969)
  • 13.1 Eddie Smith (1939-1941)
  • 12.9 Reb Russell (1913-1915)
  • 12.8 Britt Burns (1980-1982)
  • 12.2 Richard Dotson (1982-1984)

South Side Park III (2 over 9 seasons)

  • 15.1 Doc White (1905-1907)
  • 14.2 Frank Smith (1907-1909)
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36 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Wonder what Segura will get. If you can get him at 1/$10M or 1 year with an option, you do it right?

You'd think so, but who knows. With the budget still a huge question, and Hahn operating literally in the exact opposite manner that he said he would (FA vs. trades), I'm not I'd lean towards the Sox adding more FA.

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11 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

You'd think so, but who knows. With the budget still a huge question, and Hahn operating literally in the exact opposite manner that he said he would (FA vs. trades), I'm not I'd lean towards the Sox adding more FA.

The guy in the MLBTR chat yesterday predicted 2/$15M for Segura. I would hope that we would be able to add that if that's all he signed for. I would rather add now than try to make a trade for a need mid-season. I wish they could convince Jerry that if they spend a little more, they will be a better team and fans will want to come to the ballpark and spend money. 

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6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

The guy in the MLBTR chat yesterday predicted 2/$15M for Segura. I would hope that we would be able to add that if that's all he signed for. I would rather add now than try to make a trade for a need mid-season. I wish they could convince Jerry that if they spend a little more, they will be a better team and fans will want to come to the ballpark and spend money. 

I’d suppose they could but then I bet you see a RP moved to offset the cost. We just don’t know where payroll is going to fall. Makes it hard to judge if they are still players in FA.

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