bmags Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: that seems like some kinda statistical fluke? Or perhaps There is a reason he chosen to be a primary DH rather than use much of his versatility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, bmags said: Or perhaps There is a reason he chosen to be a primary DH rather than use much of his versatility. The same guy was a +1 OAA player in a much larger season in 2021, and there was no change in his sprint speed from year to year. I have no knowledge of what his injury was, but clearly 2022 was vastly different than previous seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Marlins sign Segura, 2 years/$17M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Marlins sign Segura, 2 years/$17M I'm sure this will be the year punting on 2nd base finally pays off. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Marlins sign Segura, 2 years/$17M Sheesh, would have loved to see that on the Sox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Dick Allen said: The White Sox need good players, not crap. LaStella is crap. Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Willingly going into seasons with black holes that are easily fixable is the White Sox way. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Willingly going into seasons with black holes that are easily fixable is the White Sox way. Don’t worry, they want a defensive backup catcher and 4th outfielder according to NBB. No reason not to believe him when he says they have limited funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Willingly going into seasons with black holes that are easily fixable is the White Sox way. The thought of Romy or Sosa having to face tough RHP is horrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Willingly going into seasons with black holes that are easily fixable is the White Sox way. Burger is coming, lol. The Sox way is to wait years and years for some nominal minor league infielders to filter through, and or Leury Garcia. Edited December 29, 2022 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, fathom said: Don’t worry, they want a defensive backup catcher and 4th outfielder according to NBB. No reason not to believe him when he says they have limited funds. I have no doubt if the Sox are contenders they'll trade for a Segura equivalent in July. But then you're giving up prospects, taking on money, and willingly opting into what's likely to be 3 months of replacement level production at 2nd. All of this could be avoided just by giving Segura the Joe Kelly contract. 4 minutes ago, fathom said: The thought of Romy or Sosa having to face tough RHP is horrifying. It took (literally) like 5 PA's of watching Sosa swing over sliders for people to want him demoted. Expecting Romy to even be a functional big league hitter is a huge leap of faith. Adding 1 high floor player to the mix would make such a difference, but quality depth & solid but unexciting players to round out rosters has never been something the Sox valued at all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, fathom said: Don’t worry, they want a defensive backup catcher and 4th outfielder according to NBB. No reason not to believe him when he says they have limited funds. Meaning they deem Yaz a capable starter? Because, yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Marlins sign Segura, 2 years/$17M Don’t worry, I’m sure Hahn is on the phone negotiating an overpay for LaStella as we speak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Just now, Tnetennba said: Meaning they deem Yaz a capable starter? Because, yikes. Yaz could play next season without knees and I think he'll be better/more valuable than Romy + Sosa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Yaz could play next season without knees and I think he'll be better/more valuable than Romy + Sosa. I’m 100% with you on the need for a capable 2B, but I have a hard time seeing Yaz being more valuable than either or the combo of both. Even if they both suck. Edited December 29, 2022 by Tnetennba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, T R U said: Sheesh, would have loved to see that on the Sox I mean, follow the money. Remember when we were told that we were just being paranoid that Leury Garcia was being signed for an oversized role? Dude is gonna get used because the powers that be have paid him. Can't block Leury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: I’m 100% with you on the need for a capable 2B, but I have a hard time seeing Yaz being more valuable than either or the combo of both. Even if they both suck. If Grandal is completely cooked and gets DFA'd mid-season, Seby & Carlos Perez is still functional enough to be better than replacement level. I don't think the same is true at 2nd right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Just now, maxjusttyped said: If Grandal is completely cooked and gets DFA'd mid-season, Seby & Carlos Perez is still functional enough to be better than replacement level. I don't think the same is true at 2nd right now. Disagree. If Grandal is cooked both catcher and 2B will be a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Disagree. If Grandal is cooked both catcher and 2B will be a disaster. Seby's defense alone makes him valuable even if regression is coming for the bat. edit - I don't want to make it sound like I think the Sox are secure at catcher. they aren't. It's just that I feel better, relatively speaking, about catcher than 2nd base. Edited December 29, 2022 by maxjusttyped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: If Grandal is completely cooked and gets DFA'd mid-season, Seby & Carlos Perez is still functional enough to be better than replacement level. I don't think the same is true at 2nd right now. I completely agree there. They need a better 2B option but it feels like they are content. Or are simply waiting for their favourite washed up overpay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Dick Allen said: The White Sox need good players, not crap. LaStella is crap. It's amazing to me people say give La Stella a shot but want Colas to earn his way onto the team by playing in Charlotte 1st. Old,bad, injured LH non HR hitter come on down. Young LH HR hitter who is way ahead of Sheets in RF defensively nah earn your way here and you can't play too many rookies because we're in the window ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkChopExpress Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 58 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Marlins sign Segura, 2 years/$17M Any chance this is a precursor to a Jazz Chisholm trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It's amazing to me people say give La Stella a shot but want Colas to earn his way onto the team by playing in Charlotte 1st. Old,bad, injured LH non HR hitter come on down. Young LH HR hitter who is way ahead of Sheets in RF defensively nah earn your way here and you can't play too many rookies because we're in the window ! To be fair no one has said he needs to “earn” anything. It’s all about the correct call of getting that extra cash ear of control baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, PorkChopExpress said: Any chance this is a precursor to a Jazz Chisholm trade? Idk I know Chisholm has played SS. I know there was talk of Wendle going to Boston within the past week or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It's amazing to me people say give La Stella a shot but want Colas to earn his way onto the team by playing in Charlotte 1st. Old,bad, injured LH non HR hitter come on down. Young LH HR hitter who is way ahead of Sheets in RF defensively nah earn your way here and you can't play too many rookies because we're in the window ! Who exactly is saying give LaStella a shot? All I’ve seen is people saying he’s awful now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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