Chicago White Sox Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Just over $190 million depending on how you count things. I’m pretty sure we were closer to $196M give or take. Edited November 9, 2022 by Chicago White Sox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It means they're trading Vaughn and bringing back Pito. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: Didn't read through all the posts, so someone may have already said this, but my guess is the Sox told Pollock that he was at best going to be the weak half of a platoon and if he wants to maximize his future earnings, he'd do better to go somewhere he can be a full time starter, even if it means he makes less in 2023. Plausible but he's going to be 36 next offseason so it's not a guarantee that he will even be looking at a contract if he is any worse or gets hurt this year. I think it's more likely he takes a small loss this season to go somewhere that he's more comfortable, personally or for a title run or because he didn't like this organization or whatever else the reason. That at this point in his career, its worth it to lose a couple million to go where he wants to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m pretty sure we were closer to $196M give or take. We did this in another thread on Friday. To get to $196, either I missed something that isn't in Spotrac, or you're counting signing bonuses, or you're counting money spent on the draft. This drops the payroll to just over $160 million committed, so roughly $30 million available to get back to the same payroll next season. Exact number might be different slightly but also depends on arb offers and numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sosa was really good in AAA down the stretch. What makes you think he’s not ready for a shot? He didn't look ready at all when they called him up. Maybe some time in AAA did him some good, but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Joshua Strong said: He must’ve really fucking hated playing for the Sox Maybe as much as we all hated watching them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why are we trading from an already weak system if we have $30M+ to spend on a handful of needs? Hopefully this is simple 4D chess that Rick is playing, but Trader Hahn trying to fix the roster is a scary proposition. Because that is what we do, instead of just signing someone to fix the hole we need, we try to trade the little assets we have for them because Jerry doesn’t want to write the big check 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 This man hated this organization so much he gave up 8 million dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, maloney.adam said: Quite a bit of activity this evening. Lol there’s literally a deadline for opt-outs and options for next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guys Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Alright, let's go get the Judge. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, black jack said: It means they're trading Vaughn and bringing back Pito. No it doesn't. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: This man hated this organization so much he gave up 8 million dollars. No. He hated it so much he gave up more like 3 million 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m pretty sure we were closer to $196M give or take. I figured it out on the way home. The difference is actually Pollock’s buyout. They spent $190.7 million this year before Pollock’s buyout. If Pollock’s buyout is counted as the first transaction in FY 2023, they spent $190.7 million and have $161 ish million on the books, so they’d have $30 million to spend. If you count Pollock as on FY 2022, then they spent $195.7 million last season and have $156 million ish on the books, leaving them about $40 million to spend to get back to this years’ payroll. So, depending on bookkeeping, it could conceivably be anywhere from $30 to $40 million to spend for Hahn’s statement today to be accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, Good Guys said: Alright, let's go get the Judge. I want to see Benny the Bull dressed up in a judge's outfit with a gavel trying to recruit him to come to the Southside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Luis Gonzalez would have probably been a nice 4th outfielder on the team….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Good Guys said: Alright, let's go get the Judge. Does he have a little brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why are we trading from an already weak system if we have $30M+ to spend on a handful of needs? Hopefully this is simple 4D chess that Rick is playing, but Trader Hahn trying to fix the roster is a scary proposition. When I read that tweet, my first thought was… ”Nice, Hahn is already trying to get inside the agents’ heads by making it seem like we don’t need to sign any outfielders.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: How to say nothing by saying nothing Those guys suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YonderLaroche Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 He seemed very dis interested in the games I went to. Didn't play hard and looked like he'd rather be somewhere else. Madrigal trade was awful never filled 2b or the OBP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchatRisktoZisk Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: Figured this may deserve its own thread. Now go get a lefty OF plz and thank you Where do we send the "thank you" card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Thank goodness he's gone. Obviously he despises the organization and realizes the team is going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchatRisktoZisk Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I figured it out on the way home. The difference is actually Pollock’s buyout. They spent $190.7 million this year before Pollock’s buyout. If Pollock’s buyout is counted as the first transaction in FY 2023, they spent $190.7 million and have $161 ish million on the books, so they’d have $30 million to spend. If you count Pollock as on FY 2022, then they spent $195.7 million last season and have $156 million ish on the books, leaving them about $40 million to spend to get back to this years’ payroll. So, depending on bookkeeping, it could conceivably be anywhere from $30 to $40 million to spend for Hahn’s statement today to be accurate. Gee, I wonder which way Jerry will be counting it? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 hours ago, chw42 said: He didn't look ready at all when they called him up. Maybe some time in AAA did him some good, but we'll see. Lux hit .175 in more at bats when he was 22. Getting started can be tough, but Sosa has always hit. If given a chance Sosa and Rodriguez will both be above average players in the majors. As a rule, the Sox are impatient with rookies. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, greg775 said: Thank goodness he's gone. Obviously he despises the organization and realizes the team is going nowhere. He was a bust but I don't blame him if he despises the organization like most of us do. I don't despise the White Sox franchise, I despise the Reinsdorf organization and can't wait until he sells the Sox, I'm not getting any younger. Edited November 9, 2022 by The Mighty Mite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 17 hours ago, T R U said: This is great news Only if we upgrade the position! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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