Winter Meetings Thread

[Tnetennba]

Just now, Balta1701 said:

If it were me, I'd be imagining roughly equal time for Grandal and Seby, with Perez filling in as needed, and I think there's a good chance that's an average catching pair.

It's not what the White Sox are paying $18 million for, but that needs to be treated as a sunk cost. If you add extra money behind the plate, how much better than an average catching position is that going to make them?

I would DFA him, but I know it's not happening.  In my mind being the backup gives him the best chance to remain healthy and limits the potential for him to hurt the team while playing.  I'm fine with however the split shakes out, as long as his contract doesn't automatically make him the starter on most days.

[bmags]

I'm not sure how much of my fandom is left to die but I can't imagine how much of me will die if they trade carlos perez and he ends up like a omar narvaez guy.

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

DFAing Grandal makes absolutely 0 sense at this point.  Give him at least 2 months to see if he can regain his pre-2022 form.  Cutting him for 18 million would be asinine.  Now if you can have a team pickup some of the salary, that's a different story.

[Buehrle>Wood]

12 minutes ago, bmags said:

I'm not sure how much of my fandom is left to die but I can't imagine how much of me will die if they trade carlos perez and he ends up like a omar narvaez guy.

Omar Narvaez doesn't become Omar Narvaez here.

[bmags]

1 minute ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Omar Narvaez doesn't become Omar Narvaez here.

no but he still blossomed offensively and we were like "Ok we know defense here at the white sox, and that guy don't have it!"

[Chisoxfn]

I pretty much can see a Vaughn+ headliner in a deal for Murphy.  Sox do some form of a a committe, plus cheaper 1B approach. Hopefully they still than have a couple more moves in OF. Sign a Brantley and Benintendi (or trade for someone) and than maybe they go with Frazier on a 1yr deal with an option for 2nd year.  

[southsider2k5]

If we were to chase a young A's position player I would rather it be Seth Brown.

[Chisoxfn]

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

If we were to chase a young A's position player I would rather it be Seth Brown.

By all means I don't have any issues with Brown - but he is 30. Cost controlled though.  But he hasn't hit for average or a massive amount of power. That said - he may benefit from playing at a smaller park. He is a lefty though - so right price and put him in right situations and you get something decent, but I would aim higher.  

[Y2Jimmy0]

14 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

I pretty much can see a Vaughn+ headliner in a deal for Murphy.  Sox do some form of a a committe, plus cheaper 1B approach. Hopefully they still than have a couple more moves in OF. Sign a Brantley and Benintendi (or trade for someone) and than maybe they go with Frazier on a 1yr deal with an option for 2nd year.  

I don't know why Oakland would trade 3 years of Murphy for 4 years of Vaughn. They want prospects. 

[southsider2k5]

6 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

By all means I don't have any issues with Brown - but he is 30. Cost controlled though.  But he hasn't hit for average or a massive amount of power. That said - he may benefit from playing at a smaller park. He is a lefty though - so right price and put him in right situations and you get something decent, but I would aim higher.  

He'd also be a lot cheaper and cover our needs better.

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

I'd much rather have Degrom at his contract then Verlander's.

[EloyJenkins]

Verlander 2 years 86.8 million....?

OUT OF CONTROL spending

 

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[southsider2k5]

Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I'd much rather have Degrom at his contract then Verlander's.

I would take Verlander for sure, even for the extra millions on the front end.  The dude basically has no injury history outside of the one TJS, and gives you 200 innings no matter what.

[South Side Fireworks Man]

50 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Pretending Yaz is anything but the backup C is a bad idea.  But I wouldn't put it past Hahn & Co to plug him in at DH and back up 1B, push Eloy back into LF, and call it a solution.

The Sox seem to love DHs that can't really hit too well.

[Bob Sacamano]

3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I don't know why Oakland would trade 3 years of Murphy for 4 years of Vaughn. They want prospects. 

Exactly why he also won't be going to Pittsburgh for Reynolds. Not as the main piece anyway.

[Bob Sacamano]

4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I'd much rather have Degrom at his contract then Verlander's.

I'd take the Verlander deal for sure over deGrom.

[Dick Allen]

2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I'd much rather have Degrom at his contract then Verlander's.

I'm the opposite. $100 million less for Verlander,  and you'll almost assuredly get more innings the first 2 years, and who knows what deGrom is a couple of years from now.

[chw42]

4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I'd much rather have Degrom at his contract then Verlander's.

2 years vs. 5. One guy has actually pitched 150+ innings recently. I'd take Verlander's deal all day. 

[southsider2k5]

The Verlander deal also has a third year vesting of some sort.

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[chw42]

Twins are apparently shopping Arraez for pitching. Would you do a Giolito + prospect for Arraez swap? 

[Quin]

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

Seemingly everyone but the White Sox is in on this, including the Padres and their 30 shortstops.

[fathom]

4 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Twins are apparently shopping Arraez for pitching. Would you do a Giolito + prospect for Arraez swap? 

Absolutely, love that guy

[chw42]

Just now, fathom said:

Absolutely, love that guy

Nick Madrigal if he was left handed and actually stayed on the field. 

I looked at his defensive numbers at 2B, they're not bad. You can play him in the OF too. He's basically Adam Frazier if his one good half in 2021 wasn't a complete fluke.