CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: Lots of smoke here but Mets are a team Hahn can play hardball with. Not sure many of us think of Hahn as capable of playing hardball. So you want Hendricks ? Impress me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Impress me . "Cohen opens his checkbook" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, flavum said: If this helps the offensive depth, I can live with it. Hope McNeil is part of it. Yeah, I can't see the Sox doing this move without getting something useful back to plug the holes at 2B and C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I'm scared. I love Liam. But I also love the idea of some of the Mets young players/prospect pieces. Mainly terrified that Hahn fucks this up. And this is fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: "Cohen opens his checkbook" "Go ahead, open your check book for *checks notes*. Ah yes, there is no longer any high leverage reliever to sign." Edited December 20, 2022 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/15/2022 at 7:34 PM, flavum said: Dan O’Dowd had a few Hendriks proposals tonight: Sea- for Kelenic and Flexen NY- with Crochet for Gleyber Tex- for Dunning and Josh Smith Ok experts, any of these sound ok? Seattle: possibly, if they think Flexen is a legit #4 or so. Kelenic is just a shot in the dark, but fine for a throw-in. NY: ridiculous to have to throw in Crochet for this. This isn't "top prospect in baseball" Torres - he's an up and down player whose D grades out poorly. Tex: Negative. We have several guys who assuredly can match Smith's c. 550 OPS. Dunning doesn't seem to have made much progress. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I mostly just want this trade to happen with the Mets for the music and intros. Imagine Liam coming out to the didgeridoo before Diaz and his trumpet intro. Make it happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: Yeah, I can't see the Sox doing this move without getting something useful back to plug the holes at 2B and C. Sox have to act like they don't have to cut salary. It should be like if you really want Liam you need to dazzle me. No Escobar no McCann. If you ( Mets) want to act fiscally responsible now with us you came to the wrong team. Sox need to win this trade where like 90 % of the board would be impressed,if that's even possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Sox have to act like they don't have to cut salary. It should be like if you really want Liam you need to dazzle me. No Escobar no McCann. If you ( Mets) want to act fiscally responsible now with us you came to the wrong team. Sox need to win this trade where like 90 % of the board would be impressed,if that's even possible. If the Mets have/want to cut some payroll (they do), I would take either of those guys as a toss in. Not as main pieces though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Sox have to act like they don't have to cut salary. It should be like if you really want Liam you need to dazzle me. No Escobar no McCann. If you ( Mets) want to act fiscally responsible now with us you came to the wrong team. Sox need to win this trade where like 90 % of the board would be impressed,if that's even possible. Jack Parkman needs to be impressed with the trade. Baty and McCann for Hendriks is still short about 5m in value that we would need to send to NYM. Maybe a prospect or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Hard to see a Mets deal working honestly. Are they going to open up a hole in their lineup by trading McNeil to get a really expensive set-up man?…after already giving David Robertson 10mil to presumably fill that role. Escobar definitely works to fill our 2B hole, I’m just not sure how Escobar + prospects makes sense for us. Unless it’s Baty, but that would leave a hole for the Mets at 3B. Maybe a 3 team deal, but good luck coming up with that proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Francisco Alvarez or no deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Hard to see a Mets deal working honestly. Are they going to open up a hole in their lineup by trading McNeil to get a really expensive set-up man?…after already giving David Robertson 10mil to presumably fill that role. Escobar definitely works to fill our 2B hole, I’m just not sure how Escobar + prospects makes sense for us. Unless it’s Baty, but that would leave a hole for the Mets at 3B. Maybe a 3 team deal, but good luck coming up with that proposal. They can always have Baty play 3rd and slide Escobar over to 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Does offering Kelly and/or graveman get Esobar? If the Sox can't get want they want for Hendricks shift in that direction. If that doesn't work walk away. I agree with others on the board it's a necessity to win this trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Please no Escobar back. Let’s move forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Francisco Alvarez or no deal. He is going to start with the Mets before the year is over. If we somehow got Parada that would be a huge steal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, flavum said: Please no Escobar back. Let’s move forward. Yeah, I actually just saw his age and numbers from last year. Will be 34 soon and didn't play 2B at all last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, flavum said: Please no Escobar back. Let’s move forward. That's fair. It's not ideal but in a swap of some bad money I'd take it. Edited December 20, 2022 by TheBooneLoganEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, wrathofhahn said: He is going to start with the Mets before the year is over. If we somehow got Parada that would be a huge steal Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I doubt the Mets part with major league talent that has positive value. I doubt the Sox want to sell Hendriks for minor league talent after signing Benny. I imagine the Sox would be much more incentivized to dump Kelly despite the rumors being ok with the payroll as-is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: They can always have Baty play 3rd and slide Escobar over to 2nd. They absolutely could…but trading 1 of your better hitters for a setup man and counting on a rookie in what is essentially a do or die WS year? Doesn’t make sense to me, but it is the Mets so who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) . Edited December 20, 2022 by wrathofhahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: They absolutely could…but trading 1 of your better hitters for a setup man and counting on a rookie in what is essentially a do or die WS year? Doesn’t make sense to me, but it is the Mets so who knows If only Hahn was their GM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: If the Mets have/want to cut some payroll (they do), I would take either of those guys as a toss in. Not as main pieces though. Since JR was opposed to Cohen as an owner I'm pretty sure JR isn't willing to cut Cohen any slack if they truly want to cut salary now. They put themselves in that position so why would JR now want to bail them out ? You want our guy, pay up like you have been doing all off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Thoughts on McCann and Mauricio for Hendriks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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