Balta1701 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, A-Train to 35th said: Yes Sir, I'm counting on Kelly, Moncada, TA, Eloy, Robert, Grandal, Bummer, Giolito, Clevinger, a TBD 2B, a RF TBD all to have bounce back seasons and propel the SOX to the WS. Did I leave anyone out? You need dramatic improvements from Vaughn, a ROY level season from Colas, you left out Kopech and Lynn, and you don't want a bench that is full of below replacement players or any 6.52 ERAs in the bullpen so you have to add Leury and Diekman as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So let's work through this. You've set up basically an 18-20 WAR rotation and a 6 WAR bullpen, this is comparable to the Astros last year as the best rotation in baseball. Optimistically you have set yourself up a 30 WAR lineup, including an average catching performance (big boost from Grandal), a nonterrible 2b, and a couple WAR from a LF. If all of that were to happen, the White Sox would be comparable in their overall performance to the Yankees and Astros this year. Also, you are 8 WAR behind where the Dodgers were this year. Literally 0 major injuries, healthier than 2022 Guardiansm, 0 players struggle, the Cy Young list has 4 White Sox pitchers in the top 10, Colas is a contender for the ROY award. That is literally what it takes just to put the White Sox in the conversation for 100 wins - and there is no reason why Cleveland can't be a few games better than they were last year and compete with that. At the very least, you've put together a certain Wild Card team through your imaginary "everyone is totally healthy and no one struggles in any way" setup. Now I ask you, how likely is it that this team is healthier than the 2022 guardians? That question alone should end this discussion. In this scenario, Pedro Grifol gets to remove TLR's HoF plaque. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Dan O’Dowd had a few Hendriks proposals tonight: Sea- for Kelenic and Flexen NY- with Crochet for Gleyber Tex- for Dunning and Josh Smith Ok experts, any of these sound ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, flavum said: Dan O’Dowd had a few Hendriks proposals tonight: Sea- for Kelenic and Flexen NY- with Crochet for Gleyber Tex- for Dunning and Josh Smith Ok experts, any of these sound ok? First one I'd be down in a heartbeat. Second one is okayishhhhhhhhhh but tough third no way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, flavum said: Dan O’Dowd had a few Hendriks proposals tonight: Sea- for Kelenic and Flexen NY- with Crochet for Gleyber Tex- for Dunning and Josh Smith Ok experts, any of these sound ok? Only the first one. Seems like an overpay for Gleyber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Only the first one. Seems like an overpay for Gleyber. Gleyber is also right handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, SoCalChiSox said: Gleyber is also right handed. That too. Not a left-handed savage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: That too. Not a left-handed savage. Therefore...do not want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, flavum said: Dan O’Dowd had a few Hendriks proposals tonight: Sea- for Kelenic and Flexen NY- with Crochet for Gleyber Tex- for Dunning and Josh Smith Ok experts, any of these sound ok? I’d do Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, flavum said: Dan O’Dowd had a few Hendriks proposals tonight: Sea- for Kelenic and Flexen NY- with Crochet for Gleyber Tex- for Dunning and Josh Smith Ok experts, any of these sound ok? Harold would go on a bender and bust multiple times if we got Kelenic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Doesn’t Gleybar Torres have 1 year of control left? Why would we give up Hendricks AND Crochet for that? Kelenic would be intriguing if Hahn is ready to say, “screw it, we’re announcing a permanent rebuild.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Harold would go on a bender and bust multiple times if we got Kelenic. It would almost be worth us declining that offer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chw42 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said: Oh wow a real rumor! Why the hell do the Mets need Hendriks for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sleepy Harold Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: Oh wow a real rumor! Why the hell do the Mets need Hendriks for? Uncle Steve don't care, Liam could be in the fireman role and Edwin could stick at closer I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: Oh wow a real rumor! Why the hell do the Mets need Hendriks for? Setup man I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Better not be some type of dump to get McCann and/or EE 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Sleepy Harold said: Uncle Steve don't care, Liam could be in the fireman role and Edwin could stick at closer I suppose Must be nice to have that kind of luxury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, fathom said: Better not be some type of dump to get McCann and/or EE Both of those guys have negative trade value. Hendriks is definitely a positive. There is a chance we can get both McNeil and McCann out of this. Then the money/value comes back to being similar from both sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Better not be some type of dump to get McCann and/or EE I would rather see him moved for near MLB ready prospects if they move him. If they want to throw in either of those guys as a way to offset money along with those prospects then go for it. Edited December 20, 2022 by Bob Sacamano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 There is the salary dump. Same old White Sox. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, fathom said: Better not be some type of dump to get McCann and/or EE could you fuggin imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Unless the Mets are batshit insane and prepared to buy real high on Liam and give up Baty, the only prospect that makes sense here is Parada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said: could you fuggin imagine Sadly, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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