Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, chw42 said: Both of those guys have negative trade value. Hendriks is definitely a positive. There is a chance we can get both McNeil and McCann out of this. Then the money/value comes back to being similar from both sides. Hmmm 2 years control of McNeil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I love McNeil as a player, but it's another low-power guy. He'd have made a ton of sense if our OF free choice was someone with more power (Conforto, Bellinger, gallo). IDK how I'd feel with ANOTHER ~15 homer guy, given we have most our positions filled with guys like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Mets aren’t trading McNeil. Carrasco is probably the best player you might be able to get in a trade. Salary matches up well with Hendriks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Totally predictable, you just know Jerry blew an artery with the AB signing that there had to be a catch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Mets aren’t trading McNeil. Carrasco is probably the best player you might be able to get in a trade. Salary matches up well with Hendriks. I know they were shopping him. Gotta cut payroll where you can I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, chw42 said: Both of those guys have negative trade value. Hendriks is definitely a positive. There is a chance we can get both McNeil and McCann out of this. Then the money/value comes back to being similar from both sides. If the Sox give up Liam and take back McCann, I'm banking on cocaine flowing freely in Queens and asking for Baty like I mentioned before. It's a big ask, but also, f*** that noise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I love McNeil as a player, but it's another low-power guy. He'd have made a ton of sense if our OF free choice was someone with more power (Conforto, Bellinger, gallo). IDK how I'd feel with ANOTHER ~15 homer guy, given we have most our positions filled with guys like that He's an above average defender at 2B with a low K%, so at least those would provide postivie impacts in the filed/lineup despite the lack of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Quin said: If the Sox give up Liam and take back McCann, I'm banking on cocaine flowing freely in Queens and asking for Baty like I mentioned before. It's a big ask, but also, f*** that noise. If you could get Baty, sign me up. Move one of him or Moncada to 2B Baty and McCann for Hendriks is pretty close to working via "trade analyzer" Edited December 20, 2022 by Squirmin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said: He's an above average defender at 2B with a low K%, so at least those would provide postivie impacts in the filed/lineup despite the lack of power. for sure. He's an awesome player.. I just want some power since that wins more games. He's far better Benintendi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Trade Hendricks to the Rangers for Ezequiel Duran + player TBN ... that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, fathom said: Better not be some type of dump to get McCann and/or EE Hahahaha I was just thinking this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Mets aren’t trading McNeil. Carrasco is probably the best player you might be able to get in a trade. Salary matches up well with Hendriks. That feels like a slight downgrade move at best. Sox have 5 starting pitches. Where would Carrasco fit unless you're putting Kopech in the minors which doesn't appear likely, since Kopech is probably better than Carrasco. Would this be a save money move for the Sox or money equal trade ? No idea at this juncture. We can jump to conclusions Sox need to shed salary now but that's not necessarily so. Can they get a useful near MLB piece like a young starting pitcher the Mets aren't ready to fully trust in a World Series like pressure situation. Maybe the Sox feel the need to address lack of pitching depth at the upper levels and still get a semi useful MLB piece like Guillorme and save a little money in the process. I know a lot of people here don't want Hendricks gone since it would seemingly contradict the Benintendi move. But maybe it would be a part of a plan that includes a well thought out series of moves by Hahn . LOL nahhh ! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: That feels like a slight downgrade move at best. Sox have 5 starting pitches. Where would Carrasco fit unless you're putting Kopech in the minors which doesn't appear likely, since Kopech is probably better than Carrasco. Would this be a save money move for the Sox or money equal trade ? No idea at this juncture. We can jump to conclusions Sox need to shed salary now but that's not necessarily so. Can they get a useful near MLB piece like a young starting pitcher the Mets aren't ready to fully trust in a World Series like pressure situation. Maybe the Sox feel the need to address lack of pitching depth at the upper levels and still get a semi useful MLB piece like Guillorme and save a little money in the process. I know a lot of people here don't want Hendricks gone since it would seemingly contradict the Benintendi move. But maybe it would be a part of a plan that includes a well thought out series of moves by Hahn . LOL nahhh ! ? You had me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I get the impression Hendriks is getting traded soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, fathom said: I get the impression Hendriks is getting traded soon. His option for '24 automatically gets picked up if traded right? So teams will know they are trading for 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: His option for '24 automatically gets picked up if traded right? So teams will know they are trading for 2 years? His option is basically all guaranteed anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I get the impression Hendriks is getting traded soon. This was my worry when they finished the Benintendi deal, that telling Bruce Levine they didn't have to move money was exactly what they'd do if they desperately needed to move money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: His option is basically all guaranteed anyways. Hell, if his option becomes guaranteed with a trade that would actually cut his luxury tax amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: You had me. I was serious until I got to the end and I thought that I'm giving Hahn and JR way too much credit to continue to act like a real big league GM without JR stepping in to say Ok Rick that's enough hope we've given them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, fathom said: I get the impression Hendriks is getting traded soon. And I think @Y2Jimmy0 is right that if traded, we will like what we get back. He's not getting traded as just a salary dump. Edited December 20, 2022 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCalChiSox Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: And I think @Y2Jimmy0 is right that if traded, we will like what we get back. Yeah if there is alot of interest then they should do much better with the NYM than just a salary swap with McCann and EE. There should be a significant return. I doubt it's Baty tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I'm scared. I love Liam. But I also love the idea of some of the Mets young players/prospect pieces. Mainly terrified that Hahn fucks this up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) If this helps the offensive depth, I can live with it. Hope McNeil is part of it. Edited December 20, 2022 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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