ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bmags said: Lindor would fit perfectly for this team. Move Vaughn to third, Lindor to short, TA to second and moncada to third Two 3rd basemen is a bold strategy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, Quin said: Does Moncada play on Vaughn's shoulders in this scenario? While wearing an oversized jersey to make it look like it’s one really tall player. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, bmags said: Lindor would fit perfectly for this team. Move Vaughn to third, Lindor to short, TA to second and moncada to third Move TA to catcher or I'm done with this team. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, maxjusttyped said: Move TA to catcher or I'm done with this team. It’s inevitable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: It’s inevitable. We need him to play 1 inning behind the plate because it would be the greatest moment in Soxtalk history. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Go for it then. Is "Eloy + Hendriks for Alvarez" a deal you think is fair to the Mets? Tell me why. I think it's insanely overvaluing White Sox players. I'm editing this down to say that, yes from the Mets' standpoint, it's one-sided for the Sox. But from the Sox standpoint, it isn't. By giving up Eloy for prospects, they are giving up any reasonable chance to compete in 2023. They need to be compensated for that lost chance to compete. Edited December 22, 2022 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: What awful overpay trades have they made? C'mon folks. If they were willing to move both those guys, they can get WAY better. Eloy + Hendriks alone doesn't get you Alvarez, it doesn't even get you in the ballpark, and no their GM isn't an idiot. i generally understand your points, and largely agree. But I think we're at least in the parking lot of the ballpark. Known quantities are worth a lot, so Eloy and Hendricks are getting a little undersold here. The Mets are offering 1 known quantity and a prospect, albeit a big one. Deals get feasible when one side is highly motivated. Cohen is a madman.. Just a matter of fleshing this out. Shoot for the moon, and the Batys of the organization become a lot more doable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: While wearing an oversized jersey to make it look like it’s one really tall player. Jerry only has to pay one salary. Genius. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Sometimes GMs make bad trades. Maybe this can be one of those times. Hmm, Rick Hahn making a bad trade vs Billy Eppler ?. I don’t like those odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Quin said: Personally, I think a Hendriks for Lindor deal makes the most sense. With the Mets picking up the tab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Quin said: Jerry only has to pay one salary. Genius. This is good, this may work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 55 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Two third baseman? Is that allowed with the new rules? Who needs a 1B anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Who needs a 1B anyway?? All your 1b are belong to the Outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, GreenSox said: I'm editing this down to say that, yes from the Mets' standpoint, it's one-sided for the Sox. But from the Sox standpoint, it isn't. By giving up Eloy for prospects, they are giving up any reasonable chance to compete in 2023. They need to be compensated for that lost chance to compete. Hoping the Mets have fortified their nets. Hey Santa some new trade threads please and put the name Outman in your spam filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossanoveralls Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I don't care if they trade Liam and I don't know why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Bossanoveralls said: I don't care if they trade Liam and I don't know why. Most of us are action junkies. We want to see A.C.T.I.O.N. Then we want to complain about the dumb moves that RH makes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossanoveralls Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, poppysox said: Most of us are action junkies. We want to see A.C.T.I.O.N. Then we want to complain about the dumb moves that RH makes. Attaboy most of you'ns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I agree with the sentiment around here that if this is going to happen it will happen sooner than later. I actually think FO is playing this correctly and trying to get Cohen to overpay in prospects because Cohen overlays for everything else and generally gets what he wants. Eppler may be running the show right now and trying to do a "fair" trade but I think the Sox want and need Cohen to step in and overrule Eppler and pay what it takes to get a player like Liam. If that's even a possibility, I dont see a way where it all of a sudden happens in Jan or Feb. The package starts with their catching prospect or no deal, IMO. That is our #1 area of need and if they want one of the games best relievers, he is the piece that makes the most sense. They can always sign their next catcher in FA anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, South Sider said: I agree with the sentiment around here that if this is going to happen it will happen sooner than later. I actually think FO is playing this correctly and trying to get Cohen to overpay in prospects because Cohen overlays for everything else and generally gets what he wants. Eppler may be running the show right now and trying to do a "fair" trade but I think the Sox want and need Cohen to step in and overrule Eppler and pay what it takes to get a player like Liam. If that's even a possibility, I dont see a way where it all of a sudden happens in Jan or Feb. The package starts with their catching prospect or no deal, IMO. That is our #1 area of need and if they want one of the games best relievers, he is the piece that makes the most sense. They can always sign their next catcher in FA anyway. We can always trade Liam for fair market value...holding out for overpay is absolutely essential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Part of me wants to keep him but part of me is intrigued in what we can get. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 TA, Eloy or Robert should be off the table unless an All Star level player plus a pitching prospect is coming back in return...and even that would seem foolish. Eloy has the potential to hit 40+ HR and hit for average. Robert is an absolute stud. TA is at the height of his career. Hendriks plus a prospect should be enough to land a player at a position of need...like catcher or second base. Screw the Met fans trade proposals. Hahn is not going to disassemble the core of this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, tray said: TA, Eloy or Robert should be off the table unless an All Star level player plus a pitching prospect is coming back in return...and even that would seem foolish…. Hahn is not going to disassemble the core of this team. And it’s too late, Tray B., now it’s to late….. fWAR 2020-2022 Abreu 9.5 Anderson 9.1 Robert Jr. 6.6 Moncada 6.0 Jimenez 3.6 Abreu 9.5 > 10 D 4.1+ Eloy 3.6 + Clevenger 1.1 + Vaughn -0.7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Liam is an extremely durable and reliable closer signed for a good price. The Sox don't HAVE to trade him. It's going to take a haul to get him. Any deal would probably require a 3rd team because a contending team looking for a closer isn't likely to be able to part with the MLB ready 2B or OF the Sox would want back as the main piece in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Jays no longer make sense as trade partner. Have a feeling Liam stays now, which is cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Part of me wants to keep him but part of me is intrigued in what we can get. The trade value for Hendriks and Mauricio is almost identical BTW. I think we will want a premium, so maybe that's why we are asking for Mauricio + if you believe the rumor. If they threw in Guillorme that would be great for immediate help in 2023. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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