southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 For the record, there are a couple of teams who can pull off dealing top players during a top of the division stay. To be able to do it, you have to be willing to do one of two things. #1 deal from a position where your farm system is giving you players to replace the ones you are dealing. #2 spend in the free agent market Which of these sounds like the White Sox? In order to deal Hendriks the Sox would need to have another closer in place, plus someone to replace all of those innings that the domino effect of moving guys forward would create. Internally, sure maybe ReyLo or Graveman steps forward. So who steps forward into the middle relief roles? Do the Sox get a major league starting LH RF or 2B for Hendriks? If not, what do they get? Is it someone they can then move to fill one of those holes? If not, does it free enough money to sign these replacements? Again, I still don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 We see you lurking @Pal. Please save us with a rumor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 8:52 PM, Bob Sacamano said: We see you lurking @Pal. Please save us with a rumor. Expand great.. you scared him away. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) On 12/6/2022 at 9:21 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: great.. you scared him away. Expand I promise. I wasn't insulting him like Ray Ray by calling him pal. I was just saying his name. Edited December 6, 2022 by Bob Sacamano 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 8:51 PM, southsider2k5 said: For the record, there are a couple of teams who can pull off dealing top players during a top of the division stay. To be able to do it, you have to be willing to do one of two things. #1 deal from a position where your farm system is giving you players to replace the ones you are dealing. #2 spend in the free agent market Which of these sounds like the White Sox? In order to deal Hendriks the Sox would need to have another closer in place, plus someone to replace all of those innings that the domino effect of moving guys forward would create. Internally, sure maybe ReyLo or Graveman steps forward. So who steps forward into the middle relief roles? Do the Sox get a major league starting LH RF or 2B for Hendriks? If not, what do they get? Is it someone they can then move to fill one of those holes? If not, does it free enough money to sign these replacements? Again, I still don't see it. Expand you basically just guaranteed sox put Schulz into closer role this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 9:21 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: great.. you scared him away. Expand I ain't scared of s%*#! Except the lack of activity to this point... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 10:23 PM, Pal said: I ain't scared of s%*#! Except the lack of activity to this point... Expand garsh darn it. No one is biting on our guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Feels like the trade market can’t move until Judge and the three shortstops all sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 10:28 PM, flavum said: Feels like the trade market can’t move until Judge and the three shortstops all sign. Expand I think Murphy is a huge domino as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 10:31 PM, fathom said: I think Murphy is a huge domino as well Expand I believe the phrase is fats domino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 10:26 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: garsh darn it. No one is biting on our guys? Expand Not yet. Still believe at least one bold move is coming (parting with Major League piece(s)). Moves they have been talking are pretty unlike the Sox. But doesn't mean anything until there is real action. Hopefully during these meetings, but thought something would have happened by now. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 8:03 PM, MiddleCoastBias said: "New" as if we weren't complaining about 3B for eleven consecutive years between Crede leaving and Moncada taking over. How quickly everyone forgets how big of a headache it was to find someone competent to replace the carousel of crap we trotted out there year after year. I'm in no rush to repeat that. Expand True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) On 12/6/2022 at 11:04 PM, Pal said: Not yet. Still believe at least one bold move is coming (parting with Major League piece(s)). Moves they have been talking are pretty unlike the Sox. But doesn't mean anything until there is real action. Hopefully during these meetings, but thought something would have happened by now. Expand “Pretty unlike the Sox” now I have to think that thru. Trading youth for youth? Prime years for prime years? Edited December 7, 2022 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) On 12/6/2022 at 7:33 PM, he gone. said: haha. that's not what i said. I said i'd be open to exploring 3rd base as well. Vargas is a 3rd baseman/OF. He's not necessarily known for his fielding and has bounced around 1b, 2b, 3b, LF. he kind of feels like burger as a quick comparison but admittedly dont know very much about his defensive grading. I'm just saying if you have 3 options on the table for liam and one of the options is a Jung or a Vargas I wouldn't discount it on the account of Yoan who in all likelihood is only here for a few more years, is expensive, has experience at 2B, and hasn't performed up to standards. If you find a return that makes the team better to where yoan has to slide over, I'd consider it. I'ts really not that controversial. Expand As a basic talent deployment, transferring the talent from the edge to the middle does make for optimal deployment. Especially if Moncada isn’t providing power at a power position. If we aren’t getting much needed lineup power, shore up the middle. Edited December 7, 2022 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 11:04 PM, Pal said: Not yet. Still believe at least one bold move is coming (parting with Major League piece(s)). Moves they have been talking are pretty unlike the Sox. But doesn't mean anything until there is real action. Hopefully during these meetings, but thought something would have happened by now. Expand Hmmm. Appreciate the input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 11:04 PM, Pal said: Not yet. Still believe at least one bold move is coming (parting with Major League piece(s)). Moves they have been talking are pretty unlike the Sox. Expand Timmy/Liam/Gio to Dodgers/Yankees confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 12:58 AM, Sambuca said: Timmy/Liam/Gio to Dodgers/Yankees confirmed. Expand Assuming the Sox were willing to retool, who says no to this trade? Sox or Dodgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 1:07 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Assuming the Sox were willing to retool, who says no to this trade? Sox or Dodgers? Expand Does this save $$ and or fill the OF holes? I know nothing of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 1:07 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Assuming the Sox were willing to retool, who says no to this trade? Sox or Dodgers? Expand Much more of a rebuild than retool at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 1:10 AM, Tnetennba said: Does this save $$ and or fill the OF holes? I know nothing of these guys. Expand It saves us $37M and gives you three ready / near major league players plus a semi-interesting catching prospect. Those three players include a potential TOR SP, a high upside LH bat who might be able to play 2B, and an uber athletic LH hitting 4th OF with a non-zero chance of developing into a regular. Not sure what you’d do with the savings at this point though and the reports on Busch’s defense at 2B aren’t great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 1:18 AM, ChiSox59 said: Much more of a rebuild than retool at that point. Expand Depends on what you do with the $37M, but I wouldn’t be optimistic about Jerry allowing us to sign a big 4 SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 12:32 AM, Chick Mercedes said: “Pretty unlike the Sox” now I have to think that thru. Trading youth for youth? Prime years for prime years? Expand A move the White Sox wouldn’t make? Obviously they’re going to take on someone else’s small bad contract in exchange for additional international signing space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I agree with waving Anderson in front of Dodgers, since they lost Trea Turner to Phils. Make them pay dearly, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I’m going to laugh my ass off if the Yankees or Dodgers sign AJ Pollock and then flip him to the Sox for Liam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Last year, the clowns on twitter said that teams were putting together offers for Kimbrel. While these guys (Hendriks at least) are better than Kimbrel, I just don't see teams giving up much for the Sox relievers. They aren't financial bargains and teams can fix their bullpen in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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