joejoesox Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 55 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Lol imagine getting rid of Tim Anderson and Abreu in the same offseason. How stupid could this franchise get? Apples and Oranges Abreu was a 4 win player last year and arguably the glue that held this island of misfit toys together TA was a 2 win shortstop who has off the field/clubhouse issues, who's one trick is hitting for average I was/am pissed that Abreu is gone, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if TA was traded, in fact I kind of want it to happen because we could probably get a decent haul in an overpay 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Perhaps not but he's still going to get well over 100m on his next deal and it won't be here so we might as well restock the cupboard now rather than getting nothing later. Well yeah. Just saying he’s not top tier like these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, LittleHurtCG said: What manager in the history of baseball was getting the White Sox past Houston in 2021? Well we know for a fact is wasn't Tony who absolutely cratered this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: What manager in the history of baseball was getting the White Sox past Houston in 2021? Presumably one that is awake in the dugout. 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, LittleHurtCG said: What manager in the history of baseball was getting the White Sox past Houston in 2021? With an average White Sox manager throughout the season, the White Sox and Astros are heading into a game 5 matchup at the Rate with either Lynn or Giolito on mount with full rest at the very worst. I can give you a managerial flop that was a major factor in each loss of that series - they may not all have turned to wins, but there was a good reason to believe they should have been better in each of the games they lost. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: He got picked up by the Giants midseason and did get a short stint with their big league team. He was released in October and is a free agent unless someone signed him recently. Sounds about right. Was that Yerminator burger any good? Did anyone ever try it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Quin said: Presumably one that is awake in the dugout. As the great American philosopher John Madden once put it: "Boom" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Well we know for a fact is wasn't Tony who absolutely cratered this team. So nobody? Sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Quin said: Presumably one that is awake in the dugout. So TLR is the reason the Sox didn't beat Houston in 2021 and no the players? 2022 was likley all on Tony, but don't think you can say the same for 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, LittleHurtCG said: So TLR is the reason the Sox didn't beat Houston in 2021 and no the players? 2022 was likley all on Tony, but don't think you can say the same for 2021. Yes. Do you really want me to drag up all the details? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: With an average White Sox manager throughout the season, the White Sox and Astros are heading into a game 5 matchup at the Rate with either Lynn or Giolito on mount with full rest at the very worst. I can give you a managerial flop that was a major factor in each loss of that series - they may not all have turned to wins, but there was a good reason to believe they should have been better in each of the games they lost. This is a bunch of word salad nonsense. You could say the same thing about any manager and different outcomes in like 80% of all postseason series. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Yes. Do you really want me to drag up all the details? We all know you have it saved somewhere Balta. DO IT. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, joejoesox said: Apples and Oranges Abreu was a 4 win player last year and arguably the glue that held this island of misfit toys together TA was a 2 win shortstop who has off the field/clubhouse issues, who's one trick is hitting for average I was/am pissed that Abreu is gone, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if TA was traded, in fact I kind of want it to happen because we could probably get a decent haul in an overpay Tim averages 57 extra base hits per 162 - you would classify that as someone "who's one trick is hitting for average"? I certainly don't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I think I'm done as an active fan. God speed to those still hanging on. I'm too old for this s%*#. I feel your pain and as well have become less active the longer I see how this organization operates. I think back to the days of Bill Veeck and smile. Edited December 8, 2022 by Saufley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Yes. Do you really want me to drag up all the details? Please do. Please show me how the 2021 White Sox were a better team than the 2021 Houston Astros. This should be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 It's probably a great time to trade TA. The Sox could get a very nice return for him. I doubt he's here past when the Sox have control over him anyway. His star seemed to have fallen in Chicago. To me, he just doesn't seem like THAT guy anymore. I like him, but if they Sox can get a haul for him, pull the trigger. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: So nobody? Sounds about right. Literally anyone would have given us a better chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, joejoesox said: Apples and Oranges Abreu was a 4 win player last year and arguably the glue that held this island of misfit toys together TA was a 2 win shortstop who has off the field/clubhouse issues, who's one trick is hitting for average I was/am pissed that Abreu is gone, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if TA was traded, in fact I kind of want it to happen because we could probably get a decent haul in an overpay Nah. I've never seen anyone embrace the southside culture like Tim has. He is the face of the franchise. A great player worth even more because what he brings alongside him. And well he may not be perfect, he goes out and hangs with kids in the projects on his off days because he thinks it the right thing to do. Would be a real slap in the face to the fans to trade your two stars. Being the lone person to play with energy has somehow made him a clubhouse cancer, apparently. Edited December 8, 2022 by Buehrle>Wood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: This is a bunch of word salad nonsense. You could say the same thing about any manager and different outcomes in like 80% of all postseason series. Talk about accidentally falling on to the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Baseball Trade Values has Busch, Outman and Pepiot almost identical in value to Anderson, FWIW. Man, get Correa and Swanson signed already, we need legit Sox moves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I think I'm done as an active fan. God speed to those still hanging on. I'm too old for this s%*#. Haven’t you done this I quit thing a few times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Buehrle>Wood said: Nah. I've never seen anyone embrace the southside culture like Tim has. He is the face of the franchise. A great player worth even more because what he brings alongside him. And well he may not be perfect, he goes out and hangs with kids in the projects on his off days because he thinks it the right thing to do. Would be a real slap in the face. Being the lone person to play with energy has somehow made him a clubhouse cancer, apparently. Of all of the people to get crapped on in this organization for his off of the field actions, I have no idea why TA is the guy that gets picked. Well I guess I do, but that is a whole different thing that would cause so many meltdowns it isn't even worth it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Of all of the people to get crapped on in this organization for his off of the field actions, I have no idea why TA is the guy that gets picked. Well I guess I do, but that is a whole different thing that would cause so many meltdowns it isn't even worth it. Go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Who the hell plays SS when Tim is gone? Romy Gonzalez? Leury? I do not understand wanting to trade Tim. He is far from perfect, but he is definitely an above average shortstop. Montgomery may or may not be ready next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said: Haven’t you done this I quit thing a few times They will pull me back in eventually but for now I'm done and it's reflected in my post count here since the trade deadline. Think I've made maybe half a dozen. I really just don't care about this club. I didn't bother to post on it until now but Hahn's comment about how they were projected to runaway with the division so they didn't sign anybody big last year really, and I mean really, pissed me the f*** off. PROJECTIONS LIKE THAT ARE WHEN YOU GO ALL IN YOU ARROGANT f***. STOP TREATING YOUR FANS LIKE IDIOTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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