southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I hate paying for the extended control of non elite players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 That said, I don’t know these costs but if they can get a Jake McCarthy for our glut of MI and like tanner macdougal, sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 would anyone make sense for us? Or just meh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I’m interested in Lupita Nyong’o. Doesn’t mean I have a chance in hell to get her. Enough with this “interested” s%*#. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Varsho doesn’t seem like anything special, but is a lefty that hit 27 HR’s and is very solid in the OF. Also can catch but his arm isn’t good enough to stick there apparently…but could have value for us there if Yaz is a complete bust again. Also wonder if they are looking to get out of the Marte contract…Marte + Varsho could be an interesting trade package for us. Don’t know what a realistic offer would be tho…Crochett seems like a decent starting point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: would anyone make sense for us? Or just meh? We need more balance and only have one real OF on the 40-man. We should be involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuban_sammiches Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, chetkincaid said: I’m interested in Lupita Nyong’o. Doesn’t mean I have a chance in hell to get her. Enough with this “interested” s%*#. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Wayne Gretzky." -- Michael Scott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Jake McCarthy makes a lot of sense for the Sox even if he wouldn't be the most exciting addition. Righting the wrong of not drafting Alek Thomas would be great, but I doubt the Sox have enough to land him if he's truly available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bmags said: I hate paying for the extended control of non elite players. Such is life when you can't develop outfielders yourself and refuse to spend on FA's. Edited December 9, 2022 by maxjusttyped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Does anyone have any idea what Jake McCarthy would cost? Having a hard time gauging his value, as he was not a top prospect and doesn’t have too high of a ceiling. But he’s already had decent MLB success at 24, hits left handed, and obviously has plenty of cheap team control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sambuca said: Does anyone have any idea what Jake McCarthy would cost? Having a hard time gauging his value, as he was not a top prospect and doesn’t have too high of a ceiling. But he’s already had decent MLB success at 24, hits left handed, and obviously has plenty of cheap team control. McCarthy reminds me a little bit of Adam Eaton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I’ll take any… especially Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I’ll take any… especially Thomas I was surprised at how bad his numbers were last year. I saw he had decent numbers when they played the Sox. He must have really struggled in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Alek Thomas for Crochet, Bryan Ramos, and Christian Mena. Who says no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Varsho doesn’t seem like anything special, but is a lefty that hit 27 HR’s and is very solid in the OF. Also can catch but his arm isn’t good enough to stick there apparently…but could have value for us there if Yaz is a complete bust again. Also wonder if they are looking to get out of the Marte contract…Marte + Varsho could be an interesting trade package for us. Don’t know what a realistic offer would be tho…Crochett seems like a decent starting point Varsho is nothing special?? He might be the best defensive CF in baseball AND he hit 27 HR. Oh yeah, and he's a lefty. He was worth 4.6 fWAR in 2022. If the Sox got him, they could force Robert in to LF, or hell, even let Varsho catch (did I mention he's also a catcher) with Grandal and play CF on the days when he's not catching. If you're going to get Varsho + Marte (I would be ecstatic), then you're going to have to start that package around Montgomery....AND Crochet...and couple others. Varsho is VERY special. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Alek Thomas for Crochet, Bryan Ramos, and Christian Mena. Who says no? I’d say no very quickly on that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Alek Thomas for Crochet, Bryan Ramos, and Christian Mena. Who says no? Me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Alek Thomas for Crochet, Bryan Ramos, and Christian Mena. Who says no? Yeah hard no for me there as well. Thomas's savant page leaves a lot to be desired. Had he qualified, the EV numbers would be near the bottom of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 8 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Alek Thomas for Crochet, Bryan Ramos, and Christian Mena. Who says no? Feels like the Sox massively overpay here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 it's almost like that site is terrible 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 8 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Varsho is nothing special?? He might be the best defensive CF in baseball AND he hit 27 HR. Oh yeah, and he's a lefty. He was worth 4.6 fWAR in 2022. If the Sox got him, they could force Robert in to LF, or hell, even let Varsho catch (did I mention he's also a catcher) with Grandal and play CF on the days when he's not catching. If you're going to get Varsho + Marte (I would be ecstatic), then you're going to have to start that package around Montgomery....AND Crochet...and couple others. Varsho is VERY special. Yeah he's very good and if we could get him for a deal surrounding Montgomery it would be worth it. But I still maintain it's really annoying to get value on a Varsho when so much what you are paying for is reasonable control and not straight up talent. Much easier to grade that on a 1 year basis. He is extremely good, but the control makes you value him so much higher in a trade. That said, you are absolutely right that if the sox want to change the feel around their team, suddenly having an OF of Varsho/Robert/Colas with a Cespedes as a 4th OF eventually is a dynamite defensive group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I am frequently surprised with the high valuations some forum members put on players from competing teams. Those same posters frequently see our own players as hardly worth anything in trade value. In the old days fans wanted to trade 3 or 4 garbage players for the other team's star player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, poppysox said: I am frequently surprised with the high valuations some forum members put on players from competing teams. Those same posters frequently see our own players as hardly worth anything in trade value. In the old days fans wanted to trade 3 or 4 garbage players for the other team's star player. The grass is always greener. It probably is human nature. Yes a guy passed his prime just might get back to his 2019 level, or some other guy shoukd be even better than he was in the minors,but there is no way a 28 year old Moncada can possibly be the player he was in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 12/8/2022 at 10:26 PM, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Varsho is nothing special?? He might be the best defensive CF in baseball AND he hit 27 HR. Oh yeah, and he's a lefty. He was worth 4.6 fWAR in 2022. If the Sox got him, they could force Robert in to LF, or hell, even let Varsho catch (did I mention he's also a catcher) with Grandal and play CF on the days when he's not catching. If you're going to get Varsho + Marte (I would be ecstatic), then you're going to have to start that package around Montgomery....AND Crochet...and couple others. Varsho is VERY special. Had Varsho on my radar last year off season. I know I made at least one post about it. Nice to see he had such a good year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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