AJ'S Cousin Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, chw42 said: Cohen is singlehandedly inflating the FA market lmao Don’t you wish he owned the Sox? ???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: It’s not this contract, it’s the fact they’re going to spend 4x some clubs. The competitive balance in baseball is broken. A salary floor would help 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 If Nimmo is anywhere near a normal aging curve then he will be worth his contract completely within about 4-5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, fathom said: Sox with Jerry as the owner have no shot in this environment. Mets also just signed Robertson. Yep. Jerry is single handedly running the franchise into the ground like he did the Bulls until turning over control to his son. It’s a shame he gets to hold Chicago sports hostage like this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Every team can afford the contract Nimmo just signed. What is the point of being a billionaire, owning a baseball team, & not doing everything possible to try and win? Like I said in another thread, some owners are in it to win and some owners are in it to further enrich themselves. It sucks that the owner of our team puts profits over winning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, chetkincaid said: Like I said in another thread, some owners are in it to win and some owners are in it to further enrich themselves. It sucks that the owner of our team puts profits over winning. Some are in it because they think they know what’s best for baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, chetkincaid said: Like I said in another thread, some owners are in it to win and some owners are in it to further enrich themselves. It sucks that the owner of our team puts profits over winning. 42 years doing so too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 49 minutes ago, chw42 said: Cohen is singlehandedly inflating the FA market lmao Remember though that the whole group of owners spent 20 years deflating the FA market. MLB revenues have gone up by something like a factor of 1.2 since 2005. This is like a $70 million contract then, basically around what Konerko signed for, based solely on how much revenues have gone up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Thats a lot of $. Mets are a cheat code right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Thats a lot of $. Mets are a cheat code right now. Cohen is also competing for a casino license. Which would go right by Citi Field. So if the Mets are good and foot traffic is heavy, he profits. Edit: Jerry could also follow the simple formula of good team + invest in infrastructure / entertainment around stadium besides parking = profit, but, no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: A salary floor would help They would just buy more middling veteran relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The amount of money isn’t unreasonable for Nimmo. But the amount of years given to free agents now is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: A salary floor would help How about a floor and a cap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Which thread was the one speculating on what Nimmo's salary would be? I'd like to see who came the closest. I'm doubting if anyone thought it would be $168M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Beast said: The amount of money isn’t unreasonable for Nimmo. But the amount of years given to free agents now is crazy. If you think $150 million for Nimmo is tolerable, this contract is more team friendly by being longer. Not less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Which thread was the one speculating on what Nimmo's salary would be? I'd like to see who came the closest. I'm doubting if anyone thought it would be $168M. I had a Heyman provided estimate or something like that showing 7/$145 and suggested it could be higher than that. It was not a popular opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: I had a Heyman provided estimate or something like that showing 7/$145 and suggested it could be higher than that. It was not a popular opinion. At this point I think we have to assume star level players will receive more years than we're used to just to lower the AAV for luxury tax reasons. You had it right that Nimmo's contract should really be viewed as a 5 or 6 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: It’s not this contract, it’s the fact they’re going to spend 4x some clubs. The competitive balance in baseball is broken. The league isn’t the haves and have nots though. It’s the haves and the won’ts. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: At this point I think we have to assume star level players will receive more years than we're used to just to lower the AAV for luxury tax reasons. You had it right that Nimmo's contract should really be viewed as a 5 or 6 year deal. Jerry Reinsdorf loves deferred money in contracts because if league revenues go up 10% a year, then the deferred money costs him less than paying right now. This is actually a smarter way of doing that, no one will trade for a deferred contract after a guy is retired but if Nimmo is a productive player at age 36 then his contract might be movable without eating too much. Or, if you hold him, maybe you get a bench player rather than a retiree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, fathom said: Sox with Jerry as the owner have no shot in this environment. Mets also just signed Robertson. You're clearly forgetting the s%*# f*** pitcher they signed for $12M. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G13 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Nimmo's not worth the money. If he's getting paid that much I'd expect more offensive output. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: How about a floor and a cap? Players will never agree to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: Players will never agree to that And it’s the fans of 70% of teams who will suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G13 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Wowser. Hilarious to hear Jerry cronies claim this team lost money last year. So you're thinking Jerry made $ last yr? I was at about 10 games last yr. Mainly weekend games, none were sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Good for the Mets. I'm jealous that we don't have their owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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