Merkin: Colas figures to be Sox 2023 RF

[Tnetennba]

Thanks for the obvious statement Merk

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

2 hours ago, Vote4Pedro said:

He’s still got 2 years left on his deal right? It seems like he signed that deal a decade ago ugh…

Hard to believe he'll have 10-5 rights in the final year of his contract. 

edit: wait... didn't they get rid of that in the new CBA? 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm

[Y2Jimmy0]

This isn’t even a story is it? The Sox have 1 outfielder on their 40 man. Of course Colas is the front runner to start in right field. It’s fine too. 

[Big Hurtin]

2 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

Merkin is so bad at his job. 

Pretty much what you expect from a Merkin, to add cover for a p****.

[wegner]

Wait and wait and wait for White Sox news and get this...give that man a Pulitzer.

[Harold's Leg Lift]

29 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

This isn’t even a story is it? The Sox have 1 outfielder on their 40 man. Of course Colas is the front runner to start in right field. It’s fine too. 

Maybe?  I was told the plan was to start Colas in the minors but that's likely to have changed because Hahn couldn't get done what he thought he could.  Not that anyone should be surprised by that. 

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Maybe?  I was told the plan was to start Colas in the minors but that's likely to have changed because Hahn couldn't get done what he thought he could.  Not that anyone should be surprised by that. 

Hahn is so bad at his job is it becoming funny.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

2 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I would guess 80% of us?  4 months ago was August when he was lighting up the minors.

True and some of us wanted him up last year to be eligible for the playoffs so he wouldn't have to start cold and learn how to play The GRate OF on fly and were sick of the OF defense costing games because they couldn't keep runners honest or throw anyone out and watching of our hitters LHH crumble down the stretch. and watch Robert take terrible swings while injured.

[maxjusttyped]

40 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

This isn’t even a story is it? The Sox have 1 outfielder on their 40 man. Of course Colas is the front runner to start in right field. It’s fine too. 

It would be nice if for once the Sox prioritized having depth anywhere besides the bullpen

[maxjusttyped]

4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

True and some of us wanted him up last year to be eligible for the playoffs so he wouldn't have to start cold and learn how to play The GRate OF on fly and were sick of the OF defense costing games because they couldn't keep runners honest or throw anyone out and watching of our hitters LHH crumble down the stretch. and watch Robert take terrible swings while injured.

Even Mark Payton would have been worth giving a longer look to if they were that set against starting Colas' service time clock.

[wegner]

4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

True and some of us wanted him up last year to be eligible for the playoffs so he wouldn't have to start cold and learn how to play The GRate OF on fly and were sick of the OF defense costing games because they couldn't keep runners honest or throw anyone out and watching of our hitters LHH crumble down the stretch. and watch Robert take terrible swings while injured.

Another dumbass move not calling him up....

[Timmy U]

1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

Even Mark Payton would have been worth giving a longer look to if they were that set against starting Colas' service time clock.

They resigned Payton. They can do this if they are that committed to manipulating service time.

[maxjusttyped]

2 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

They resigned Payton. They can do this if they are that committed to manipulating service time.

If they viewed Payton as a viable big league option I think we would have seen him in the majors earlier & playing more regularly once he was up.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

2 hours ago, hi8is said:

If they don’t trade for a second baseman I’m down for Popeye time. 

 

[pcq]

4 hours ago, LittleHurtCG said:

 

The man wants to play. Step aside please. We got one guy to look forward to. The rest is JR horse hockey. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

3 hours ago, fathom said:

They need a 4th outfielder as well that hits righty (assuming LF is a lefty)

@Y2Jimmy0 suggested a guy a month or so ago. Can't remember his name.

[Balta1701]

So he would have to finish top 3 in the Roy citing to get the team a draft pick?

[hi8is]

18 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So he would have to finish top 3 in the Roy citing to get the team a draft pick?

Wait - what? In the new CBA they have a provision that the team with a top 3 ROY finisher gets an extra draft pick??

[southsider2k5]

4 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Wait - what? In the new CBA they have a provision that the team with a top 3 ROY finisher gets an extra draft pick??

Only if they are on the roster to start the season.

[Y2Jimmy0]

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Maybe?  I was told the plan was to start Colas in the minors but that's likely to have changed because Hahn couldn't get done what he thought he could.  Not that anyone should be surprised by that. 

I just don’t think requiring him to play home games in Charlotte to start the year is meaningful for anyone. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

3 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33761266/the-end-mlb-service-manipulation-how-kris-bryant-paved-way-next-kris-bryant?platform=amp
 

It’s about halfway into the article but those are the reasons, among others, why Colas will be the opening day RF.

Good find and I'll give the reasons from that article to answer Balta's question.Cease benefited greatly from those new rules and got an extra $2M for his performance last year.

• No matter when a player comes up from the minors, he'll be awarded a full year of service if he finishes first or second in Rookie of the Year voting.

• A new system put in place now rewards teams with extra draft picks if they promote their top prospects on Opening Day. A player who receives a full year of service time and finishes in the top three in Rookie of the Year voting or top five in MVP/Cy Young voting will earn his team an extra draft pick coming after the first round.

• A new pre-arbitration bonus pool allows the best players in a class to boost their pay significantly through on-field performance while still in the early arbitration years of their contract. The top 100 players via a WAR-based formula and the end-of-year award winners will split up $50 million annually. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

27 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Only if they are on the roster to start the season.

• No matter when a player comes up from the minors, he'll be awarded a full year of service if he finishes first or second in Rookie of the Year voting.

• A new system put in place now rewards teams with extra draft picks if they promote their top prospects on Opening Day. A player who receives a full year of service time and finishes in the top three in Rookie of the Year voting or top five in MVP/Cy Young voting will earn his team an extra draft pick coming after the first round.

Seems a little ambiguous to me.  Colas can be awarded a full years service time if he's in the top 2 ROY voting . The 1st sentence of the 2nd paragraph says , " A player who "receives" a full year of service time and finishes in the top three in Rookie of the Year voting or top five in MVP/Cy Young voting will earn his team an extra draft pick coming after the first round.

That seems a bit ambiguous. depending on the definition of "receives". Does "receives" mean strictly opening day and/or if he's awarded a full year based on finishing in the top 2 in rookie of the year as the 1st paragraph states ? So theoretically if Colas finishes in the top 2 in ROY he will be awarded a full year and get the Sox a top draft pick despite not being on the Opening Day roster ?

Edited December 14, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[hi8is]

23 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Only if they are on the roster to start the season.

Nice. That’s a fantastic rule!

[ShoeLessRob]

Even this organization’s beat writers blow. 

[Sambuca]

55 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

• No matter when a player comes up from the minors, he'll be awarded a full year of service if he finishes first or second in Rookie of the Year voting.

• A new system put in place now rewards teams with extra draft picks if they promote their top prospects on Opening Day. A player who receives a full year of service time and finishes in the top three in Rookie of the Year voting or top five in MVP/Cy Young voting will earn his team an extra draft pick coming after the first round.

Seems a little ambiguous to me.  Colas can be awarded a full years service time if he's in the top 2 ROY voting . The 1st sentence of the 2nd paragraph says , " A player who "receives" a full year of service time and finishes in the top three in Rookie of the Year voting or top five in MVP/Cy Young voting will earn his team an extra draft pick coming after the first round.

That seems a bit ambiguous. depending on the definition of "receives". Does "receives" mean strictly opening day and/or if he's awarded a full year based on finishing in the top 2 in rookie of the year as the 1st paragraph states ? So theoretically if Colas finishes in the top 2 in ROY he will be awarded a full year and get the Sox a top draft pick despite not being on the Opening Day roster ?

I think it’s pretty much, you can try to suppress his service time and get the extra year but if that player is 1/2 in ROY, he’s getting that extra year regardless.

So if you think the player has a chance to finish 1/2 ROY, you better call him up OD so you can at least get that draft pick since he’s getting the full year either way.

Even if the player called up OD doesn’t get 1/2 ROY, you’re still rewarded an extra draft pick if he’s 3 ROY or top 5 MVP/Cy Young.  Although in most cases, top 5 MVP/Cy Young would be 1/2 ROY anyways.