shago Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: This would turn out to be a great offseason Wow do we have low great bar .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Honestly wouldn't mind taking a look at Tommy Pham if he came on the cheaper side as a insurance policy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Wow 5yrs. I'm surprised. Just seen this. Had to make a 6.5 hour trek to Boston for my wife's family situation. I like it. The only thing is 10ds arm It's LF bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Honestly wouldn't mind taking a look at Tommy Pham if he came on the cheaper side as a insurance policy Pham seems like he's kind of an asshole to have in the clubhouse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: It's LF bro. I know BRO. Do you remember the chopper 10 hopper he threw from short left against the sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Once again, I'd like to thank whoever convinced AJ Pollock that he didn't want to play for the White Sox any longer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, wegner said: Once again, I'd like to thank whoever convinced AJ Pollock that he didn't want to play for the White Sox any longer. He also may very well get more than the 8 mil he left on the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said: He also may very well get more than the 8 mil he left on the table Good luck to him. I'm very glad he left that 8 on the table here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, chw42 said: Pham seems like he's kind of an asshole to have in the clubhouse. Just don't ask about his fantasy team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, wegner said: Once again, I'd like to thank whoever convinced AJ Pollock that he didn't want to play for the White Sox any longer. The Twins might be interested in him, but I doubt he wants to play in the miserable cold again. I can see him going back to the west coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: The Twins might be interested in him, but I doubt he wants to play in the miserable cold again. I can see him going back to the west coast. Pollock returning to the Dodgers if he can't get a nice deal elsewhere seems inevitable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 i just heard Hahn wanted Beni in the draft over Fulmer. So who made the pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Chick Mercedes said: i just heard Hahn wanted Beni in the draft over Fulmer. So who made the pick? The Red Sox did. He was picked in front of the White Sox. Edited December 17, 2022 by DirtySox 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said: Pollock returning to the Dodgers if he can't get a nice deal elsewhere seems inevitable to me. I’m assuming he heads back and is more like the Pollock of 2 years ago than last year. Also I expect he will see a more reduced workload next year which might help him too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, DirtySox said: The Red Sox did. He was picked in front of the Sox. Oh I get it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 So here’s my version of the math. As far as I can tell the White Sox budget this different from Spotrac, as long as they don’t hit the tax. When they have a buyout, Spotrac counts it as the previous year, but I think the White Sox count it for the next year. Otherwise I can’t find any reason for them to defer part of Clevinger’s deal until a buyout. So let’s assume that’s how they do the budgets - they count buyouts on the next season. If that’s true, then it means the buyouts for Harrison and Pollock don’t count for 2022, they count for 2023. And Clevinger’s buyout doesn’t count for 2023, it counts for 2024. If I’ve got that right, then they read the 2022 payroll as just over $190 million. $15 million on top of that for benefits. If I move the buyouts to 2023, and use the MLBTR estimates for arbitration amounts, then I have them about $162 million starting the offseason. $8 million for Clevinger takes them to $170 million, and today takes them to $185 million. There’s potentially a million or two difference in arb numbers and minor league contracts I can’t count yet. As of right now, their payroll in this count is about $5 million less than 2022. Their first round pick will cost them a little over $1 million more as well. Probably they count that too. So generously $5 million below last years’ payroll today, potentially a little less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Pollock returning to the Dodgers if he can't get a nice deal elsewhere seems inevitable to me. The Dodgers are trying to get better not worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Law is bearish on this move and the Sox https://theathletic.com/4010370/2022/12/16/white-sox-andrew-benintendi-contract/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: Law is bearish on this move and the Sox https://theathletic.com/4010370/2022/12/16/white-sox-andrew-benintendi-contract/ Shocking. Fuckers almost always right about us. Dude seems to think Eloy is gonna be in right field. Uh yea… ok? Edited December 17, 2022 by hi8is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: Law is bearish on this move and the Sox https://theathletic.com/4010370/2022/12/16/white-sox-andrew-benintendi-contract/ I'm not sure how he isn't putting two and two together with Eloy now being the full-time DH. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: Law is bearish on this move and the Sox https://theathletic.com/4010370/2022/12/16/white-sox-andrew-benintendi-contract/ If it makes you feel any better, Law has criticized almost every free agent signing of the off-season so far. Judge, Rodon, Bogaerts, Abreu & Edwin Diaz were all bad moves from his perspective. I like Law as an evaluator and really respect his opinion, but he's very much of the opinion "players should get paid more, just don't do it like that" which *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I'm not sure how he isn't putting two and two together with Eloy now being the full-time DH. He mentioned somewhere that Josh Bell was a possibility after Abreu signed in Houston. I don't think he has the best grasp of the White Sox roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: If it makes you feel any better, Law has criticized almost every free agent signing of the off-season so far. Judge, Rodon, Bogaerts, Abreu & Edwin Diaz were all bad moves from his perspective. I like Law as an evaluator and really respect his opinion, but he's very much of the opinion "players should get paid more, just don't do it like that" which *shrug* It's honestly been kind of weird. Literally every time a player has signed a contract worth $75 million or more this offseason, it's as if there's a scheduled Keith Law tweet 3 hours later talking about how it's such a bad decision. I know it's not his intention, but it comes off as overzealous ownership support. I generally like him too, but it feels to me like he just hasn't adjusted to the new market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: If it makes you feel any better, Law has criticized almost every free agent signing of the off-season so far. Judge, Rodon, Bogaerts, Abreu & Edwin Diaz were all bad moves from his perspective. I like Law as an evaluator and really respect his opinion, but he's very much of the opinion "players should get paid more, just don't do it like that" which *shrug* I’m pretty sure people here said all those moves were bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I'm not sure how he isn't putting two and two together with Eloy now being the full-time DH. It really seems like the main reason he's down on the Sox as even contending for a wild card (aside from the 2B situation) is that he thinks Gavin Sheets is the primary DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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