he gone. Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I'll give a golf clap. Not trying to be the unthankful Sox fan. It's a nice baseball move and if it happens it's a step in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Do we actually know that this is happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, Marky Mark said: Do we actually know that this is happening? It literally states that this is a rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 All quiet right now besides the A's making that 1 year deal for pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Here's something to think about when it comes to Benintendi and his power. In 2021, Benintendi hit 17 homers while playing half of his games in KC's giant stadium. His expected HR if he played his games at GRate was 29. Last year, Benintendi hit only 5 homers while playing mostly in KC and a month in Yankee Stadium. Despite a career high BA, his ISO while in KC was only .078. Half of his career ISO. Once he moved to Yankee Stadium, his batting average dropped but his power went back to his career norms with a .149 ISO. It's very evident that Benintendi altered his approach in KC to play to its spacious dimensions. I don't think the drop in power last year was because he lost his power. It was just him tailoring his approach to fit the ballpark he was playing in. I think he goes back to being a 20 home run guy if he plays half of his games at the Rate. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 this would be good. Anyone would be good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: Here's something to think about when it comes to Benintendi and his power. In 2021, Benintendi hit 17 homers while playing half of his games in KC's giant stadium. His expected HR if he played his games at GRate was 29. Last year, Benintendi hit only 5 homers while playing mostly in KC and a month in Yankee Stadium. Despite a career high BA, his ISO while in KC was only .078. Half of his career ISO. Once he moved to Yankee Stadium, his batting average dropped but his power went back to his career norms with a .149 ISO. It's very evident that Benintendi altered his approach in KC to play to its spacious dimensions. I don't think the drop in power last year was because he lost his power. It was just him tailoring his approach to fit the ballpark he was playing in. I think he goes back to being a 20 home run guy if he plays half of his games at the Rate. Could it be that he was working with people in KC who had a "hit the ball on the ground" philosophy, and that Grifol was among them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: Here's something to think about when it comes to Benintendi and his power. In 2021, Benintendi hit 17 homers while playing half of his games in KC's giant stadium. His expected HR if he played his games at GRate was 29. Last year, Benintendi hit only 5 homers while playing mostly in KC and a month in Yankee Stadium. Despite a career high BA, his ISO while in KC was only .078. Half of his career ISO. Once he moved to Yankee Stadium, his batting average dropped but his power went back to his career norms with a .149 ISO. It's very evident that Benintendi altered his approach in KC to play to its spacious dimensions. I don't think the drop in power last year was because he lost his power. It was just him tailoring his approach to fit the ballpark he was playing in. I think he goes back to being a 20 home run guy if he plays half of his games at the Rate. Also probably got the good baseballs in NYC playing with Arson Judge. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 What's funny is the usual food accounts got zero right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Sign a second basemen next and shut the whiners here up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Could it be that he was working with people in KC who had a "hit the ball on the ground" philosophy, and that Grifol was among them? His GB% did go up in KC last year. Then when he got traded, it went to the lowest of his career. It was definitely a change in approach. FWIW, his splits since he joined KC have favored his numbers on the road by quite a bit. Kaufmann was definitely holding him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, tray said: Sign a second basemen next and shut the whiners here up. No one else really to sign for 2B. Unless you grab Segura I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: No one else really to sign for 2B. Unless you grab Segura I guess. Jean Segura is projected to get $12-13 million a year. There's no way that's happening for the Sox. There's a better chance of them bringing back Andrus to play 2B. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: I'm thinking this is happening because of the pressure of the fan base being up in arms over the lack of movement. Reinsdorf feeling the heat! Jerry's too cold to feel any heat and I'll believe it when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I’ll guess 4/54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: They are loaded though and are a proven winner. Sox, not so much. It makes me think we gotta overpay for him. I think 4 years and $15 million a year is probably what his market is. The Sox might have to pay a few extra million to get him here. Edited December 16, 2022 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, tray said: Sign a second basemen next and shut the whiners here up. I wouldn't call Sox fans whiners. I'd call them smart and accountable fans who have been subject to the worst franchise in baseball for countless decades. They are rightfully skeptical & upset. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: It makes me think we gotta overpay for him. I think 4 years and $15 million is probably what his market is. The Sox might have to pay a few extra million to get him here. Ya, he's stuck in that middle ground like Avi Garcia was a few years ago. He's a solid back and affordable to almost every franchise thus driving his overall cost. I'm w/ you on the 4/60 deal. He's probably worth closer to 4/48mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, chw42 said: His GB% did go up in KC last year. Then when he got traded, it went to the lowest of his career. It was definitely a change in approach. FWIW, his splits since he joined KC have favored his numbers on the road by quite a bit. Kaufmann was definitely holding him back. Yeah, but that "lowest of his career" number was in only 131 plate appearances, so I'm uncertain how much weight to give to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, tray said: Sign a second basemen next and shut the whiners here up. Sox record with Rick Hahn as a GM. We whine about nothing. This is great. For someone complaining about whining, you sure do whine a lot. 6 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Continues the theme of ownership/management pretending like they’re trying to win 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I’ll guess 4/54 I'll guess your a few mil short, more like 4/70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It literally states that this is a rumor. Yes but what is different about this than any other Twitter rumor that doesn't come true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, chw42 said: It makes me think we gotta overpay for him. I think 4 years and $15 million a year is probably what his market is. The Sox might have to pay a few extra million to get him here. I tossed out 4/$70M . I agree that we'll have to overpay a touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, chw42 said: Jean Segura is projected to get $12-13 million a year. There's no way that's happening for the Sox. There's a better chance of them bringing back Andrus to play 2B. Agreed. Which is why they aren't signing a 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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