South Side Hit Men Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: we don't have the mnoney for conforto OR segura.. I'm not even certain we have the money for Duvall lol If that’s the case, it will mark the third straight offseason in the “multi-championship window” Hahn did not address key lineup and depth holes. A properly managed $200M payroll (+/- $10M either direction) is enough for a smart FO enough to win championships. Even dumb teams like KC did it for just over half that threshold. World Series Champions (Cot’s Contracts OD Payroll in Millions): 2022 Houston ($175) 2021 Atlanta ($134) 2020 Los Angeles NL ($205) 2019 Washington ($197) 2018 Boston ($234) 2017 Houston ($124) 2016 Chicago NL ($172) 2015 Kansas City ($113) 2014 San Francisco ($149) 2013 Boston ($155) 2012 San Francisco ($131) 2011 Saint Louis ($109) 2010 San Francisco ($96) All this annual hand ringing in the media about competitive balance and most teams have “no chance” is complete and utter bullshit. Build smart organizations = Winning Build dumb organizations = Losing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 29 minutes ago, chw42 said: Duvall probably signs for $5-6 million. If they can dump Kelly's contract they can probably get him. More likely than not, the team will have a hole at 2B to start the season. I'll guess a little more because he still can play all 3 OF positions and his power bat. Didn't check his base running but I'll guess that's still good too. $7-8$M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, chw42 said: Duvall probably signs for $5-6 million. If they can dump Kelly's contract they can probably get him. More likely than not, the team will have a hole at 2B to start the season. For a team in their "window" it's criminal they can't add a $5-6 million dollar player. It's also criminal they don't have internal options that can play the role Adam Duvall would be asked to play, considering the now 34 year old Adam Duvall was fairly awful last year. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Bring Adam home, Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I’m on record for believing the Sox need this type of player, so I’m for it. Victor Reyes does not count. Billy Hamilton really shouldn’t either. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, Sambuca said: Bring Adam home, Steve. He's from Louisville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greek-konerko Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: I’m on record for believing the Sox need this type of player, so I’m for it. Victor Reyes does not count. Billy Hamilton really shouldn’t either. Shame on you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Greek-konerko said: Shame on you greek, any news from the baker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) They just have to work out how much he wants to get paid and for how long. Edited December 19, 2022 by pcq 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, pcq said: They just have to work out he much he wants to get paid and for how long. cross the T's and dot the I's at this point then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: greek, any news from the baker? You know how hard it is to get a quality three way together? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I'll guess a little more because he still can play all 3 OF positions and his power bat. Didn't check his base running but I'll guess that's still good too. $7-8$M Sox are totally the club that will spend $15 million on Benintendi, $7-8 million on Duvall and another few million on pitching depth instead of dropping $25 million on a player that actually makes a difference. It's infuriating. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, steveno89 said: Sox are totally the club that will spend $15 million on Benintendi, $7-8 million on Duvall and another few million on pitching depth instead of dropping $25 million on a player that actually makes a difference. It's infuriating. I like Benintendi quite a lot and think he will "actually make a difference." 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Tony said: For a team in their "window" it's criminal they can't add a $5-6 million dollar player. It's also criminal they don't have internal options that can play the role Adam Duvall would be asked to play, considering the now 34 year old Adam Duvall was fairly awful last year. Sox will spend whatever it takes to add another awful Adam to their roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Duvall might be a bit over the hill, but he does have a lot of skills that could help the club. I would definitely be good with this permitting that we continue to look for quality depth as well. I am telling ya, this team NEEDS more depth because we will see it very soon and all year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 44 minutes ago, steveno89 said: Sox are totally the club that will spend $15 million on Benintendi, $7-8 million on Duvall and another few million on pitching depth instead of dropping $25 million on a player that actually makes a difference. It's infuriating. Agreed but the problem still exists unless u want Leury in CF when someone gets hurt. You can't change what is. At least it's Vaughn and Eloy in positions they belong now ,better defense and more lineup balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Tony said: For a team in their "window" it's criminal they can't add a $5-6 million dollar player. It's also criminal they don't have internal options that can play the role Adam Duvall would be asked to play, considering the now 34 year old Adam Duvall was fairly awful last year. It is I think important to understand whether his 2022 was him breaking down and we'll see more detioriation or is there more left in there. I won't pretend to know the answer, but he was pretty darn consistent (in a good way) offensively from 2019-2021 and than just fell of a cliff in '22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 If Corly flops to the point of being unplayable, can we just address it at the deadline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, Jerksticks said: If Corly flops to the point of being unplayable, can we just address it at the deadline? I believe you mean Corlas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: Duvall might be a bit over the hill, but he does have a lot of skills that could help the club. I would definitely be good with this permitting that we continue to look for quality depth as well. I am telling ya, this team NEEDS more depth because we will see it very soon and all year. I agree with your "needs more depth" evaluation but Duvall is really uninspiring to me. Admittedly, I haven't seen much of him with my own eyes, but his stats leave me wondering why we would be buying if the price is 5-6 million. I'll offer Engel 2 million and get more for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Luplow to the Braves for 1.4 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, poppysox said: I agree with your "needs more depth" evaluation but Duvall is really uninspiring to me. Admittedly, I haven't seen much of him with my own eyes, but his stats leave me wondering why we would be buying if the price is 5-6 million. I'll offer Engel 2 million and get more for the money. He would instantly become our second best power hitter, plus he plays good defense from what I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, fathom said: Luplow to the Braves for 1.4 mil Leads me to believe Duvall won’t be going back to them. Not sure what Duvall’s overall market looks like though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I believe you mean Corlas You gotta figure his friends call him Corly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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