southsider2k5 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, wegner said: Is he going to end up with a 1 year prove he's healthy contract??? I think Cohen's big mouth ruined that idea. Sounds like Correa has a pretty clear grievence if Cohen doesn't come through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, wegner said: You've got to kinda feel for Scott Boras with these deals continuously falling through....damn doctors!!! Nah, Boras clearly didn't use enough metaphors to seal the deal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox72 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I think Cohen's big mouth ruined that idea. Sounds like Correa has a pretty clear grievence if Cohen doesn't come through. I saw this mentioned earlier. How does Cohen’s statement legally affect this? (Honest question, in case you’re curious) edit: question for the board, not just SS2K Edited December 27, 2022 by Sox72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sox72 said: I saw this mentioned earlier. How does Cohen’s statement legally affect this? (Honest question, in case you’re curious) edit: question for the board, not just SS2K MLB tampering rules is what I read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) I wonder if the concern is more around the fact that they might not be able to get the deal insured because of this history. It's why it might not of held up any deal with the Twins. This isn't a new injury/issue for Correa, so amazed that it's causing this type of hold up. Edited December 28, 2022 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I wonder if the concern is more around the fact that they might not be able to get the deal insured because of this history. It's why it might not of held up any deal with the Twins. This isn't a new injury/issue for Correa, so amazed that it's causing this type of hold up. It’s 100% a part of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 the astros cheated to win a world series... the worst the MLB will do to the Mets is fine them and take away a draft pick. It just sounds like he violated an unwritten rule. the Sox should see what they can get for Moncada if the deal falls through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, wegner said: You've got to kinda feel for Scott Boras with these deals continuously falling through....damn doctors!!! No pity for Boras. I don't trust that he didn't try to downplay or even cover-up the injury. The guy tried like hell to sell Sox and others a badly injured Comforto last year. I suppose if I were a player, I'd want him on my side but my guess is there will be more info surfacing re: Correa in the days ahead and Boras won't come off as pitiable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, wegner said: You've got to kinda feel for Scott Boras with these deals continuously falling through....damn doctors!!! Yeah...how about a Go Fund Me page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, poppysox said: Yeah...how about a Go Fund Me page. That or a government bail out for the poor guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Mystery team time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Watch him go back to the Twins during this entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5yr 175M. Jr shocks the world! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 As long as we have a seat at the table 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGen Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 On 12/27/2022 at 6:13 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I wonder if the concern is more around the fact that they might not be able to get the deal insured because of this history. It's why it might not of held up any deal with the Twins. This isn't a new injury/issue for Correa, so amazed that it's causing this type of hold up. I'd be interested in knowing how the insurance companies are viewing the longer term contracts we are seeing. I think everyone is assuming that during year 9-10-11 etc of these contracts it is unlikely the player will be worth the salary due to age and wear and tear. It may be better for the player to be seriously injured and have the insurance company pay the majority of the salary at that point. So are insurance companies ever willing to insure the entirety of a 10-13 year contract on anyone? Or just players that have a 100% clean health at the time of signing? Or do they top out at 5-6 years and leave the remaining risk to the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, ThirdGen said: I'd be interested in knowing how the insurance companies are viewing the longer term contracts we are seeing. I think everyone is assuming that during year 9-10-11 etc of these contracts it is unlikely the player will be worth the salary due to age and wear and tear. It may be better for the player to be seriously injured and have the insurance company pay the majority of the salary at that point. So are insurance companies ever willing to insure the entirety of a 10-13 year contract on anyone? Or just players that have a 100% clean health at the time of signing? Or do they top out at 5-6 years and leave the remaining risk to the team? Steve Phillps the former GM, was talking about this on MLBN the other day. He said there is no way to get insurance on a pre existing condition. Correa's contract, no matter where he signs, is uninsurable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Steve Phillps the former GM, was talking about this on MLBN the other day. He said there is no way to get insurance on a pre existing condition. Correa's contract, no matter where he signs, is uninsurable. Not to mention, insurance cost is tied to risk. A policy like this is probably insanely expensive anyway, even if it was insurable. The quants who do those things for a living are really good at making sure the insurance companies come out ahead on everything in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Steve Phillps the former GM, was talking about this on MLBN the other day. He said there is no way to get insurance on a pre existing condition. Correa's contract, no matter where he signs, is uninsurable. Did somebody say incentive based contract? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 They also had a doctor on who said its' probable they see at least a little bit of arthritis. If anyone remembers the Boy Wonder, Robin Vetura's ankle injury, it was in spring training and gruesome. He came back and pllayed, and played really well for a while, but arthritis set in and he wound up retiring. it was so bad, he was using a cain. He had some surgery to relieve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Twins getting Correa on a great deal due to this fiasco would be a terrible outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Twins getting Correa on a great deal due to this fiasco would be a terrible outcome. While it would definitely be annoying, the fact that his physical has been concerning enough for 2 teams to possibly pass on him shows that he might be toast physically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Twins getting Correa on a great deal due to this fiasco would be a terrible outcome. $30 million a year in dead spending would be disastrous to Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: $30 million a year in dead spending would be disastrous to Minnesota. It would if it was actually dead spending. I obviously am not privy to Correa's medical records, but I think the chances he comes dead money anytime soon is remote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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