2Deep Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Do any of our insiders know if there is any truth to this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Makes less than zero sense. So likely BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 That person has tried (and failed numerous times) playing "insider" this off-season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Makes less than zero sense. So likely BS. They’ve tried to get him numerous times in the past. This wouldn’t shock me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 A catcher who can't catch would be the most on brand signing ever. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, fathom said: They’ve tried to get him numerous times in the past. This wouldn’t shock me at all. They must know Yaz is done if they're going after Sanchez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, chw42 said: They must know Yaz is done if they're going after Sanchez. Knowing these idiots, they probably will platoon Yaz and Vaughn at 1B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, fathom said: Knowing these idiots, they probably will platoon Yaz and Vaughn at 1B Let’s maybe give Pedro a chance first. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 My eyeballs regret scrolling down that man's twitter feed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Actually this would be an excellent value signing. Despite his reputation as a bat first catcher who can't catch, last year he had positive defensive numbers (FG had him with positive defensive stats and baseball savant had him in the 79th percentile in pop time, framing was league average at 50). Xwoba was above average and xslug was well above average. He was a reverse splits hitter last year with 99 wrc+ vs RHP and only 64 vs LHP, which is fine for us. On a cheap deal this makes alot of sense. A catcher who is a league average hitter against RHP is great esp if his defensive improvements hold. We have literally nothing reliable at C this is a good bridge until when Yaz is off the books. Edited January 13, 2023 by SoCalChiSox 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Actually this would be an excellent value signing. Despite his reputation as a bat first catcher who can't catch, last year he had positive defensive numbers (FG had him with positive defensive stats and baseball savant had him in the 79th percentile in pop time, framing was league average at 50). Xwoba was above average and xslug was well above average. He was a reverse splits hitter last year with 99 wrc+ vs RHP and only 64 vs LHP, which is fine for us. On a cheap deal this makes alot of sense. A catcher who is a league average hitter against RHP is great esp if his defensive improvements hold. We have literally nothing reliable at C this is a good bridge until when Yaz is off the books. There has been a lot of using fangraphs defensive WAR for catchers this offseason and being surprised what catchers it favors. Id recommend at some point questioning whether to continue using that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, bmags said: There has been a lot of using fangraphs defensive WAR for catchers this offseason and being surprised what catchers it favors. Id recommend at some point questioning whether to continue using that. What about the Baseball Savant stats? Those are positive too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I'd tend to lean toward the larger, prior 6 years of data behind the plate that says Sanchez is not a good fielder than what could end up being an outlier year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, chw42 said: They must know Yaz is done if they're going after Sanchez. We know the Sox have never been wrong on someone's medicals or used limited resources in an inefficient way before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Sanchez would help with the HR issue, but realistically, I don't think he's any better than a Seby/Perez combo at backup C. Would be an odd signing unless he signs for practically free. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 40 minutes ago, bmags said: There has been a lot of using fangraphs defensive WAR for catchers this offseason and being surprised what catchers it favors. Id recommend at some point questioning whether to continue using that. Teams seem to value framing much higher than the general public, even fans on here. They will take great framers who allow a ton of passed balls which is a profile most fans don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Sanchez would help with the HR issue, but realistically, I don't think he's any better than a Seby/Perez combo at backup C. Would be an odd signing unless he signs for practically free. I think the obvious way this would go wrong is that they cut or trade Zavala to clear the roster spot, and in order the quality of catchers out of this group next year turn out to be Zavala, McGuire, Grandal, Sanchez, best to worst. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, bmags said: There has been a lot of using fangraphs defensive WAR for catchers this offseason and being surprised what catchers it favors. Id recommend at some point questioning whether to continue using that. I think that's less of an issue of the stat itself and more people just not realizing that it's a positional adjustment that makes catchers look more valuable defensively/them not realizing that the "Def" stat next to WAR isn't dWAR. Sanchez ranked 18th out of 30 defensively among catchers with 600+ innings, which seems fair since he did make a few tangible improvements last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 This could be total BS, and likely is, but there is reason to believe the Sox are after a C with the previous, although supposed, interest in Murphy and Jansen. I’m opposed to adding a C at the expense of Seby and not Yaz, but if Yaz really is cooked, I worry about what shortsighted move they do make as the likelihood they simply cut bait doesn’t seem high to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I have no doubt if they get rid of Zavala and or Perez one of them will become an all star. Not saying they will be one with us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I know he has supposedly improved defensively, but why not sign a guy most likely cheaper, who pitchers love to throw to? I though the Sox could use a guy like Barnhart earlier. Stolen bases are about to become more prevalent, he would have been a better use of resources than Sanchez. It has to be BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I think the obvious way this would go wrong is that they cut or trade Zavala to clear the roster spot, and in order the quality of catchers out of this group next year turn out to be Zavala, McGuire, Grandal, Sanchez, best to worst. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: ? He loves bringing him up any chance he gets. McGuire is awful and is irrelevant to any discussion at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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