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Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Short arm gone. Makes me more nervous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Short arm gone. Makes me more nervous He’s been working with som pretty advanced things. I wouldn’t be too nervous. He wouldn’t change if it didn’t make him better. BTW, they had Eloy on MLBN today. He looks good. Yonder Alonso was interviewing him. He looks 70 lbs. lighter than Yonder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Contract year coming up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 28 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Short arm gone. Makes me more nervous It wasn’t working last season, so something needed to be fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Lucas wants his BB back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I mean it worked once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Seems good if it has him touching 753 mph 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 If he's throwing 89 he's toast. Hopefully he's trying to build muscle memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Short arm action vs long arm action means more with arm climb at foot strike. As long as his arm is in the correct place at foot strike the rest doesn’t matter. The arm spiral and layback are usually the same. Short arm is used a lot to simplify moving parts. The more worrying thing is this guy keeps changing his mechanics every year or so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: If he's throwing 89 he's toast. Hopefully he's trying to build muscle memory. You in mid-season form and it's not even February. He's wearing sneakers throwing off a mat lol. Edited January 19, 2023 by Look at Ray Ray Run 2 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Lucas gonna be nails this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I'm not sure getting rid of his short arm action is the right thing to do. It was the thing that made him effective because the release point made it hard to pick up the ball out of his hand. He also threw harder with the short arm action vs. his long arm action prior. I'm sure there's people way more knowledgeable than me advising him, but Lucas decided to bulk up last off-season and it didn't really help him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: If he's throwing 89 he's toast. Hopefully he's trying to build muscle memory. Bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, chw42 said: I'm not sure getting rid of his short arm action is the right thing to do. It was the thing that made him effective because the release point made it hard to pick up the ball out of his hand. He also threw harder with the short arm action vs. his long arm action prior. I'm sure there's people way more knowledgeable than me advising him, but Lucas decided to bulk up last off-season and it didn't really help him. Well, I mean if it doesn't work it hurts him far more than anyone else with a contract coming up. I'm sure he's not making any changes lightly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, chw42 said: I'm not sure getting rid of his short arm action is the right thing to do. It was the thing that made him effective because the release point made it hard to pick up the ball out of his hand. He also threw harder with the short arm action vs. his long arm action prior. I'm sure there's people way more knowledgeable than me advising him, but Lucas decided to bulk up last off-season and it didn't really help him. Seems counterintuitive that the shorter arm would provide more centrifugal force but my guess is that he's trying to get his velocity back. Fingers crossed. When he had it going he was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Based on the grip and the radar gun total it looked to me like he was throwing a circle change-up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 hours ago, southsideirish71 said: Short arm action vs long arm action means more with arm climb at foot strike. As long as his arm is in the correct place at foot strike the rest doesn’t matter. The arm spiral and layback are usually the same. Short arm is used a lot to simplify moving parts. The more worrying thing is this guy keeps changing his mechanics every year or so. You only have at most 10 months to worry about Gio as a White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 hours ago, chw42 said: I'm not sure getting rid of his short arm action is the right thing to do. It was the thing that made him effective because the release point made it hard to pick up the ball out of his hand. He also threw harder with the short arm action vs. his long arm action prior. I'm sure there's people way more knowledgeable than me advising him, but Lucas decided to bulk up last off-season and it didn't really help him. He was touching 100 as a prospect with that arm motion. Granted that was years ago, but technically that was the same arm motion he did bring it from. It's his contract year, Lucas is trying to get paid.. but this isn't normal for an MLB big league pitcher to keep changing his mechanics this drastically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) This change wasnt just a whim after struggling. A biomechanics assessment this offseason revealed misfiring in his delivery, and a throwing program reintroducing plyometric balls with focus on “getting everything back in sync, my whole kinetic chain” is going well. He's got his kenetic chain in sync. Look out AL. Edited January 19, 2023 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Insane how athletic he is to change deliveries like this and be consistent with it. I hope he shoves and Sox decline QO just in case. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Giolito pretty much does this complete rebuild every off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 hours ago, SoxAce said: He was touching 100 as a prospect with that arm motion. Granted that was years ago, but technically that was the same arm motion he did bring it from. It's his contract year, Lucas is trying to get paid.. but this isn't normal for an MLB big league pitcher to keep changing his mechanics this drastically. That arm action was also a TJS ago. I'm not sure he's got the same arm strength he did back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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