Chick Mercedes Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 6 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: I think its more that he is a 26 year old kid that isn't interested in being relegated to DH duty for the rest of his career quite yet. Just because he wants to play OF and the coaching staff is at least leaving that door open for it (closing the door would be kind of stupid, if its they only played him out there in emergencies), does NOT mean they actually intend for him to anything but the primary DH. Well it would be a sudden reversal if they were not playing DHs out there, that’s for sure. And before the answer is that we have a new coaching staff in place, it was the new manager that suggested Eloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, SoxBlanco said: Those were my EXACT same thoughts when I read this. This is a complete non-story in my eyes. It would be a non story if it wasn’t the new manager suggesting Eloy get work in right field. Since he did, its a story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: Well it would be a sudden reversal if they were not playing DHs out there, that’s for sure. And before the answer is that we have a new coaching staff in place, it was the new manager that suggested Eloy. I think you’re reading into offseason talk far too much. Eloy is going to play OF occasionally though. This shouldn’t be earth shattering to anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: It would be a non story if it wasn’t the new manager suggesting Eloy get work in right field. Since he did, its a story. I was talking about Eloy’s comment on not knowing who would be the clubhouse leader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: I was talking about Eloy’s comment on not knowing who would be the clubhouse leader. I agree, that part is sort of a non story, but can be rather telling that nobody comes to his mind as a leader. May or may not mean there aren’t leader candidates. You’d rather someone was obvious to him however on a veteran team Edited January 24, 2023 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ'S Cousin Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I think TA will step up and be the leader. Liam MIGHT have stepped up if wasn't for his health, but i think TA, will be the leader. sort of agree with Scooter, Vaughn may emerge as the the leader eventually if he can handle the pressure. Robert could be a darkhorse and let's not forget Benitendi MAYBE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I cant think of of a team that needed new leadership more than the Sox. I don't care who it is. Bring Drake back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) This seems like it has the potential to be 2016 part deux. A full rebuild, trading everyone just to be right back where we started. That's the White Sox for ya. Edited January 24, 2023 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: To be fair, when a leader leaves, along with an entire management team, it is kind of hard to know who the next leader would be. The personality of a locker room isn't a linear equation. Who knows who emerges. Of all of the things to be annoyed with, this isn't one. Also I do like the fact that Eloy still WANTS to play OF, even if it scares me to death. It at least means he isn't a quitter. I feel like they also need to physically be in the locker room first before figuring out who the leader is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sarava said: I cant think of of a team that needed new leadership more than the Sox. I don't care who it is. Bring Drake back. Drake Laroche is now a married man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Vote4Pedro said: Well he also is still trying to play the outfield… May I suggest a minor surgery? Maybe extract a couple of wisdom teeth. Whatever it takes for him to feel OK about being a DH. Edited January 24, 2023 by JTB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Can the worst player on the team really be the leader? Fair point. I guess I'm hoping he can be a leader by being the comeback player of the year and being vocal. I mean it's his last season with us so why not lol. A guy can dream right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 In my opinion, this is Tim Anderson's team. Now, whether the Latin players choose to listen to him or if he actually steps up and not do "other" activities is another story. But I think he would and can be the man in that department. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, SoxAce said: In my opinion, this is Tim Anderson's team. Now, whether the Latin players choose to listen to him or if he actually steps up and not do "other" activities is another story. But I think he would and can be the man in that department. It certainly would make sense the leader would be a shortstop that’s been here the longest, and has accomplished things in the game. It also doesn’t hurt he’s got two years left to prove he’s worth a big payday from somebody. I hope Tim has it in him to take his leadership to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 16 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Did the team ever have a leader? As much praise as Jose got the clubhouse seemed to be in constant turmoil over the past 2-3 years. And the play on the field reflected it, almost 0 accountability. Ricky, held player's accountable. TLR ruined that by trying to be a player's manager. Jury's still out on Pedro, hopefully Benintendi stay's in LF and Eloy becomes the primary DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, SoxAce said: In my opinion, this is Tim Anderson's team. Now, whether the Latin players choose to listen to him or if he actually steps up and not do "other" activities is another story. But I think he would and can be the man in that department. Tim needs to grow up first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Now that we’re done pretending good moves will be made, it seems like we’ve officially entered the blowing everything out of proportion part of the offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Is there anything more overblown than the 'team leader'? Abreu's leadership led to 1 playoff win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Snopek said: Now that we’re done pretending good moves will be made, it seems like we’ve officially entered the blowing everything out of proportion part of the offseason. What else are we gonna do until pitchers & catchers report?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I'm very confused about why people are mad at Eloy about these comments. Literally every play focused story in the last month has just led to dragging the player. I get that many underperformed last year, but yeah Eloy does not have to be happy about DH'ing. It's fine that a leader is not pre-annointed, and to be sad about a legendary player and one of the best white sox of my life now off the team. "Giolito is working hard to overhaul his delivery to not repeat last year" -> "Stupid idiot always changing and he sucks!" "Lance Lynn experimenting with new pitch last year showed promise" -> "I didn't see it, the idiot sucks!" "Eloy is working hard on his defense and doesn't want to give it up" -> "ah what an idiot!" "Grandal is working with a specialist to improve his back after suffering through it last year" -> "Classic cooked piece of s%*#" K guys. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, bmags said: I'm very confused about why people are mad at Eloy about these comments. Literally every play focused story in the last month has just led to dragging the player. I get that many underperformed last year, but yeah Eloy does not have to be happy about DH'ing. It's fine that a leader is not pre-annointed, and to be sad about a legendary player and one of the best white sox of my life now off the team. "Giolito is working hard to overhaul his delivery to not repeat last year" -> "Stupid idiot always changing and he sucks!" "Lance Lynn experimenting with new pitch last year showed promise" -> "I didn't see it, the idiot sucks!" "Eloy is working hard on his defense and doesn't want to give it up" -> "ah what an idiot!" "Grandal is working with a specialist to improve his back after suffering through it last year" -> "Classic cooked piece of s%*#" K guys. Sox fans are just mad. Some even more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Anyway if you are looking for a leader next year, it's obviously going to be Carlos Perez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, bmags said: Anyway if you are looking for a leader next year, it's obviously going to be Carlos Perez. Billy Hamilton erasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, bmags said: I'm very confused about why people are mad at Eloy about these comments. Literally every play focused story in the last month has just led to dragging the player. I get that many underperformed last year, but yeah Eloy does not have to be happy about DH'ing. It's fine that a leader is not pre-annointed, and to be sad about a legendary player and one of the best white sox of my life now off the team. "Giolito is working hard to overhaul his delivery to not repeat last year" -> "Stupid idiot always changing and he sucks!" "Lance Lynn experimenting with new pitch last year showed promise" -> "I didn't see it, the idiot sucks!" "Eloy is working hard on his defense and doesn't want to give it up" -> "ah what an idiot!" "Grandal is working with a specialist to improve his back after suffering through it last year" -> "Classic cooked piece of s%*#" K guys. Eloy's defense comments frustrate me because he always throws in that he adamantly does wants to DH. I just want the dude to read the room. He can just say he'll do both. The leader comment is whatever, because like, they haven't even been in the locker room together. Of course he doesn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Grandal can lead from his hospital bed like The Natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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